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bhar 03-07-2011 10:21 PM

Fights between teams, and partners
 
I've been reading a lot of posts on this forum coming down hard on fighters that don't want to fight against their training partners.

Some of the examples are Evans, Jones, Machida, Silva etc.

I can understand why some people may think that as professional athletes they should be forced to fight each other, however, I am curious to see how many people with this opinion actually train at an mma gym and with fighters that are their friends.

Personally I do train alongside many friends and fighters at my gym, and after years of blood, sweat and injuries, I would never step into the cage or ring against one of them.

The closeness of MMA is closer than that of many team sports due to the obstacles that you must overcome mentally and physically to pursue fighting.

This is not a game, this is not baseball or basketball,and if you are not mentally able to go into the fight 100% against ANY opponent, why should you?

So I am wondering, do YOU train, and what is your opinion?

Rusty 03-07-2011 10:25 PM

I'd be willing to bet that the more successful fighters have no problem fighting their friends.

It's what they were BORN to do:)

Homeboy 03-07-2011 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RustyRenegade (Post 1376502)
I'd be willing to bet that the more successful fighters have no problem fighting their friends.

It's what they were BORN to do:)

Not everyone... There is a guy called Anderson Silva who wouldnt fight with his team mates/friends and i think that GSP would be one of those guys aswell.

MikeHawk 03-07-2011 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeboy (Post 1376526)
Not everyone... There is a guy called Anderson Silva who wouldnt fight with his team mates/friends and i think that GSP would be one of those guys aswell.

GSP doesn't have specific team mates. He does a lot of different stuff and moving around for his camps. Most of which he doesn't let us know. I'm sure he'd have no problem fighting people out of Jackson's camp, like Condit. Condit has expressed that he would fight GSP as well.

Rusty 03-08-2011 12:01 AM

Hard to think of an opponent for Silva aside from Vitor. I guess Shogun has been sorta calling him out.

Impossible to find one for GSP since his camp is lacking for quality welterweights. Outside of Condit there's not much competition I can think of.

GSp wouldn't turn down any fight at 170, friends or not. He just doesn't have any:)

Homeboy 03-08-2011 12:06 AM

Maybe I was wrong about GSP but Anderson Silva would defenetly not fight ppl out of his camp, pepole like Machida... When Machida was the LHW champ everyone wanted to see that fight and tbh i still do.

Rusty 03-08-2011 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Homeboy (Post 1376532)
Maybe I was wrong about GSP but Anderson Silva would defenetly not fight ppl out of his camp, pepole like Machida... When Machida was the LHW champ everyone wanted to see that fight and tbh i still do.

Anderson has said many times that he wouldn't fight Machida so I don't really count that one. Come to think of it, Silva doesn't have any 185lb peers at blackhouse either.

I might be more correct than I originally thought:thumb02:

Iuanes 03-08-2011 12:23 AM

I don't know. It is a reasonable thing to say 'unless your'e a fighter you don't know', but I am human being and I can relate both to fighting, cooperation and love.

Machida fought his brother. His brother. Frank says it would be an honour to fight Ken. I train Muay Thai but not at the intensity of a professional fighter. I would love to fight my instructors and fellow students.

This is martial arts. It's about the test and overcoming it. If you truly value your'e training partners you believe their test to be worth taking.

I think its the ethic of professionalism, not wanting to take away something (money, opportunity, status) from someone close, that leads to the wariness of fighting teammates.

I do not think this fits the martial arts ethic,however, wherein by fighting them, you give them something, and by not fighting them, you withhold your wisdom.

guycanada 03-08-2011 12:44 AM

GSP at 170 has Sanchez and Condit at Jackson's

GSP at 185 has Akiyama and Marquardt

At Tri-star there is Rory MacDonald and Sean Pierson at 170,

ACTAFOOL 03-08-2011 12:45 AM

i train mma in a gym along with my 2 best friends, they are like brothers, and we have fought each other and it was fun as hell!

my brother used to train with us and i spared hard with him many times and i really wouldnt mind fighting him either

at the end of the day, its just a fight...fighting to me is fun, i love kicking ass and getting my ass kicked, if a friend of mine is on the other end its just even better win or lose

i can understand ppl not wanting to fight their friends, but idk...i see fighting as a fun sport, not a negative thing, to fight my friend its as if we were going to play another sport together

its an awesome feeling...but i guess there are fighters that view fighting as a negative thing and purly a buisness thing, if they dont need to fight a friend they dont want to

i dont like it but i understand it

for the record i just dont like it if the 2 friends are in the same division and are both the top guys..like both have to fight for the #1 contender or if one becomes champ and the other is #1 contender

when its like AS and machida where both are in different weight classes then i really dont mind it


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