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UFC The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is a U.S.-based mixed martial arts organization, recognized as the largest MMA promotion in the world. The UFC is headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada and is owned and operated by Zuffa, LLC. This promotion is responsible for solidifying the sport's postion in the history-books.
UFC is currently undergoing a remarkable surge in popularity, along with greater mainstream media coverage. UFC programming can now be seen on FOX, FX, and FUEL TV in the United States, as well as in 35 other countries worldwide.
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03-08-2011, 01:11 PM
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Super Heavyweight
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Originally Posted by Rauno
That's quite irrelevant. We're talking about the time his going to take on Jon Jones, not how he beat everybody badly 5 years ago. His still a wrecking machine but not as good as he was in Pride.
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What makes you say this?
Injury is the only thing I can think of. He is without a doubt the most skilled fighter at 205. Injury has made him less consistent. 100% Shogun is one of the best fighters in the world.
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03-08-2011, 01:15 PM
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Speed Kills
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Shogun Rua
19-4
16 (T)KO's, 1 Submission, 2 Decisions
UFC Light Heavyweight champion
PRIDE Middleweight Grand Prix Champion
Defeated Lyoto Machida, Chuck Liddell, Mark Coleman, Ricardo Arona, Alistair Overeem x2, Kevin Randleman, Antônio Rogério Nogueira, Rampage Jackson, Evangelista Santos, etc...
He is incredible.
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03-08-2011, 01:22 PM
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MMA Patriot
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Originally Posted by jonnyg4508
What on earth are you babbling about?
Hype? He has been a top LHW for 6 or 7 years facing tons of top LHWs.
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What he has done for the past 6 or 7 years is not relevant only his recent actions because the all slow down and lose the edge eventually
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03-08-2011, 01:24 PM
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Jon Jones will have every chance to win this fight but man someone at least give the Champion some credit.
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03-08-2011, 01:40 PM
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Location: Manchester
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Originally Posted by americanfighter
What he has done for the past 6 or 7 years is not relevant only his recent actions because the all slow down and lose the edge eventually
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He just recently KO'd the enigma that was Machida, the guy who no body could even touch, he got shut down in the first round.
Hows that for relevancy.
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03-08-2011, 01:54 PM
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Featherweight
Join Date: Feb 2009
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So Silly. Can we please stop seeing this?
'X fighter isn't that good, yeah he beat X and X, but that what was a long time ago His win against X shouldn't count because he had a fractured skull, and X, well, we ALL know X was over hyped. Sure, there was the X fight, but THATS his only good win and we all know he got lucky, cause X had a crappy game plan'
Shogun, of ALL people, has a great MMA resume. There's retarded idea that for a fighter to be worthy of his hype he has to have knocked off of unending string of MMA legends.
And Shogun has actually done it! And still in reality, you'll not get the opportunity to fight everybody of worth in their prime. It's not just about record and names, its about looking at these fighter's abilities, and analyzing their performances. Records and histories are merely indications.
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03-08-2011, 01:57 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Originally Posted by Rauno
That's quite irrelevant. We're talking about the time his going to take on Jon Jones, not how he beat everybody badly 5 years ago. His still a wrecking machine but not as good as he was in Pride.
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Really? I think he's alot better now than in PRIDE, his striking has evolved dramatically imo, the only thing holding him back are the knee injuries.
In PRIDE he relied mostly on his speed, explosiveness and tenacity to overwhelm guys, he doesn't do that anymore. His footwork has improved alot and he uses that high guard to absorb alot of counter-punches very effectively. He puts his strikes together alot more effectively and sets them up alot better. He doesn't stay in the pocket and bang with guys nearly as much, if he doesn't get a good feel for an exchange he backs out and resets. In his last three fights specifically he actually somewhat utilizes gameplans to target a weakness and exploit it, in PRIDE Shogun and gameplan were never in the same sentence. He fights with alot more patience and intelligence now than in PRIDE, he's still explosive no doubt but not quite as reckless. The knee injuries are what's killing his career right now.
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03-08-2011, 02:50 PM
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ROCKET FISTS
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Newbs think Shogun is like 35-37 or something. The dude is the same age as GSP, he's not even 30 yet. And at Jones age instead of having beat cans on their way out like Bonnar/Vera/Vlad, he had destroyed guys like Rampage, Arona, Overeem, Lil Nog...
But IMO he's just now coming into his prime (starting at the Liddell fight). He's with a camp that's done wonders for him. In Pride his boxing wasn't exactly great, he kept a really low guard and he threw hands looking for a clinch instead of looking to actually hit them. Just watch the Diabate fight, he was getting lit up - of course Diabate was probably one of the best strikers in the world at that point.
But now his hands are amazing, he's throwing those leg kicks like he's trying to cut trees in half, his BJJ is insane and he actually game plans now.
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03-08-2011, 02:53 PM
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Lightweight
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Trinidad and Tobago
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Im not sold on all the Shogun hype....
people are making it seem like he is Super-Fedor.
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03-08-2011, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by khoveraki
Newbs think Shogun is like 35-37 or something. The dude is the same age as GSP, he's not even 30 yet. And at Jones age instead of having beat cans on their way out like Bonnar/Vera/Vlad, he had destroyed guys like Rampage, Arona, Overeem, Lil Nog...
But IMO he's just now coming into his prime (starting at the Liddell fight). He's with a camp that's done wonders for him. In Pride his boxing wasn't exactly great, he kept a really low guard and he threw hands looking for a clinch instead of looking to actually hit them. Just watch the Diabate fight, he was getting lit up - of course Diabate was probably one of the best strikers in the world at that point.
But now his hands are amazing, he's throwing those leg kicks like he's trying to cut trees in half, his BJJ is insane and he actually game plans now.
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Urgh...
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