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Old 03-08-2011, 03:44 PM   #21 (permalink)
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He just recently KO'd the enigma that was Machida, the guy who no body could even touch, he got shut down in the first round.

Hows that for relevancy.
There are huge holes in his game that make him nothing once exploited. Hell if you look at my posting history I was the first to spot them after his fight with rashad. Namely leg kicks then once he gets kicked in the legs he comes out of his game plan and got koed.

I admit that was an impressive win but hisfights with Coleman and forest he wasn't too impressive and ontop of that he is injured.

All I am saying is that Jon has a better chance than many fans are giving them.
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There are huge holes in his game that make him nothing once exploited. Hell if you look at my posting history I was the first to spot them after his fight with rashad. Namely leg kicks then once he gets kicked in the legs he comes out of his game plan and got koed.

I admit that was an impressive win but hisfights with Coleman and forest he wasn't too impressive and ontop of that he is injured.

All I am saying is that Jon has a better chance than many fans are giving them.
What are you talking about, Jones is the overwhelming favourite for this fight. If any thing, this thread should be titled; "Is Jones as good as the hype"?
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What are you talking about, Jones is the overwhelming favourite for this fight. If any thing, this thread should be titled; "Is Jones as good as the hype"?
I am just talking about peole I have talked to an certine post on this forum.
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I can't believe somebody actually said Shogun isn't as good now as he was in Pride. Your right he isn't as good he is better. Shogun in Pride threw much more wild strikes with much less precision. Shogun today throws much more accurate strikes and while maintaining a better defensive guard. His striking has evolved to what it is today from something much more similar to what Wanderlei throws.
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Old 03-08-2011, 04:18 PM   #25 (permalink)
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This thread is just na´ve, uninformed. Shogun's record speaks for itself, if that's not enough then try watching the fights... All-star list of beaten opponents, 17 of those 19 are stoppages, 2 of his 4 losses are pure bad fortune, and the dude has not hit 30 yet.

The word hype in this case is just ignorant, Rua is more than proven.
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Shogun is without a doupt The Best LHW in the World right now, no question!

The thing is he had surgery ones again and he might not be the same fighter anymore.. thats the only reason for me to believe that this fight is 50/50.

Otherwise Shogun should be a 80/20 favourite!

ahh.. let's say 70/30
Injury free, he's one of the baddest men on the planet. I think he takes A. Silva if he's in average fight shape. You can look around at records and Rua has one of the most impressive at least IMO.

Jones is most likly going to get crushed.

Anyone can be beat or have a bad showing but Rua is a beast win or lose.
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Old 03-08-2011, 05:29 PM   #27 (permalink)
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What he has done for the past 6 or 7 years is not relevant only his recent actions because the all slow down and lose the edge eventually
Suuuure.

The dude is still young. If it weren't for knee injuries his start to his UFC career would have been better.

He had beat MAchida the first time when he was undefeated and no one thought he could be touched. Then when he wasn't given the decision he came back and ended him in the 1st round.

Bottom line is after 7 years of tearing it up in the sport...hype is no longer involved. How can someone have hype when they have been there done that for years? It makes little sense.
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Im not sold on all the Shogun hype....

people are making it seem like he is Super-Fedor.
Who is? The people who haven't realize that Jones' is special? Or his nut-hugger fans?

I haven't seen anyone act like he is a god. Have you seen anyone rank him in the top 3 P4P list recently? Jones is the favorite in this fight.

Where is this coming from? People are acting like he is super-fedor? Where? Or are we just making things up?
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Hype? No, Shogun is the real deal.

He battered Rampage in PRIDE, brought the Machida Era to a screeching halt, destroyed Mark Coleman and Chuck Liddell violently knocked out Alistair Overeem twice, bashed Ricardo Arona's brains into the canvas in PRIDE. And of course had one of the most amazing fights in MMA history against Lil' Nog, a fight in which any other man may have been KO'ed by the vicious shot Lil' Nog landed on him.

You say hype? What hype? He's the greatest 205 lb fighter in MMA history. It's undeniable and the truth is he's more than likely going to reign over 205 for a LOOONG time.
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