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View Poll Results: Which Card wil be Better?

129- St.Pierre v Shields 33 50.77%
130- Edgar Maynard 3 27 41.54%
Even(really.....) 5 7.69%
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Old 03-11-2011, 05:20 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Why? How big of a chance do you give Shields and especially Hominick to win? And just because a card has two title fights doesn't really make it more exciting, especially two lopsided title fights.
Lopsided ?

GSP and Aldo will win IMO buts its not that cut and dry.

Edgar vs Maynard is a good fight i agree then the rest of the card is average.

Jackson vs Hamill - 2 fighters never going to be champion again or ever.

Mir Vs Nelson - 2 irrelevant HW fighters who i dont like watching because both are stupid gameplanners.

Struve i like but he is fighting a Top 20 guy at best , Kongo got a draw because of the point deduction otherwise easy win , Struve will own his lopsided like you say.

Stann i like but he is also fighting a guy he SHOULD NEVER LOSE to.

Then we have the prelims and Im not a fan of any of those fights or fighters even though im English i dont care about Pickett.

Thats why i like the other event better.
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:59 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Even.

Although GSP, Aldo, and Machida losing would be amazing. I don't have a personal interest in 130 but it is an amazing card and is worth buying as every fight on the card looks good.

Alves on the prelims sucks ass though, I understand exciting fights on prelims translates to more PPV buys, but the number three welterweight in the world should not be fighting on the prelims. That's just awful.
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Old 03-11-2011, 08:20 AM   #33 (permalink)
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UFC 129, it really gives me more intrigue, and seems like its going to be one amped up night.
- I really think GSP vs Shields could actually be a close grappling match, and will have plenty of fans nervous that night. (Ones who dont want GSP to lose and then fight Silva)
- Aldo vs Hominick is going to be a battle, this could be a nice striking match. And its Aldo's UFC Debut.
- Couture vs Machida. If Machida is back to his old form, it could be one sided, plus it could be Couture's last fight, might as well see a legend walk off into the sunset with your own eyes.
- Henderson vs Bocek could be real nice, though I think this is going to be one sided, Bocek is losing.
- Nate Diaz vs Rory MacDonald. I really anticipate this one, might not be the biggest names but knowing both fighters, this could be a real scrap, early FOTN candidate. I expect this one to go everywhere, a real battle.
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130 by far, except for the main event.

On 129, besides the main event, all the other fights are either one sided, big names with losing streaks, or complete minnows.

130 is packed with fighters all of which are on hot streaks and very relevant to their divisions, with close fights to call. I mean Mir/Nelson, Stann/Santiago, Struve/Browne, Jackson/Hamill are all contender deciders.

Whereas 129 has Matyushenko Brilz which is fairly low on the relevancy scale to the title picture and probably a boring fight to boot. Watching Aldo tool guys is fun but Hominick is like zero threat to him. And Bocek/Bendo might have had some meaning in the WEC, but in the UFC's packed LW division these guys are years away from the title picture.

Not that I'm complaining, both are good solid cards with their share of entertaining figthers and I do love GSP clinics, I just think 130 is way better overall.
I think you guys are under estimating the skills of Bocek, I personalty think he will win this fight fairly easily, I consider his defiantly a top 10 push up loser if not in the top 5 of the UFC LW division in respect to the guys skills.

If you guys consider Jim Miller as a dark horse contender in that division as many do, then you can't ignore Bocek, I have been a long term fan of Miller and still am, but seriously you should watch the Miller vs Bocek fight again sometime because I don't think the unanimous decision gives real justice to how close that fight really was, I personally remember been quite worried for Miller on a few occasions in that fight and thought there was a good chance he would lose the decision. Ok hard to say Miller was not good for his win because they both performed well had it was close, but I don't think there would of been a creditable cry of injustice if the judges has given the fight to Bocek ether.

I think Bendo gets sub'ed in this fight, I would be surprised with any other outcome.
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I think you guys are under estimating the skills of Bocek, I personalty think he will win this fight fairly easily, I consider his defiantly a top 10 push up loser if not in the top 5 of the UFC LW division in respect to the guys skills.

If you guys consider Jim Miller as a dark horse contender in that division as many do, then you can't ignore Bocek, I have been a long term fan of Miller and still am, but seriously you should watch the Miller vs Bocek fight again sometime because I don't think the unanimous decision gives real justice to how close that fight really was, I personally remember been quite worried for Miller on a few occasions in that fight and thought there was a good chance he would lose the decision. Ok hard to say Miller was not good for his win because they both performed well had it was close, but I don't think there would of been a creditable cry of injustice if the judges has given the fight to Bocek ether.

I think Bendo gets sub'ed in this fight, I would be surprised with any other outcome.
Well Bocek is tough as nails, but he's 5-3 in the UFC and already has a loss to the champ and a somewhat lower tier UFC fighter in Danzig.

I think he has potential for sure and the fight with Bendo could easily go either way, either a Bocek sub as you predicted or a UD for Bendo.

But the point is the winner of this fight still wouldn't be considered a top 10 LW. It'd be hard to put either of them over guys with much hotter streaks such as Miller, Guillard, Pettis and Siver.
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Old 03-11-2011, 09:30 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Why? How big of a chance do you give Shields and especially Hominick to win? And just because a card has two title fights doesn't really make it more exciting, especially two lopsided title fights.
Ding Ding Ding!

Not sure why people like to watch great fighters beat up inferior opponents? I like to watch great fighters, but what will I get out of watching GSP do his thing for 5 rounds again? Maybe he gets a stop for once...idk. What am I going to get out of Aldo destroying Hominick? I already understand that he has few threat in the 145 division. I love him as a fighter, but I'll be way more interested in his fights when he moves to 155.

I am excited about the Randy/Machida fight, as I hope Randy can do it one more time. But I won't hold my breath.

I'd rather watch a great fight between 2 top 10 fighters rather than a lopsided victory for a champ that everyone and their mama saw coming. That is why the LHW division is so great. Every title fight I get extremely excited for since it is anyones fight. Not sure the last one I wasn't excited about watching? I guess all the way back to Rampage/Forrest as everyone thought Rampage would cruise...but it turned out to be a great fight.

To each their own, I just don't get the appeal of watching a predictable thrashing.

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Lopsided ?
Stann i like but he is also fighting a guy he SHOULD NEVER LOSE to.

What?

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Old 03-11-2011, 03:29 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Can' be unbiased in this one. UFC 129 is coming to my hometown AND it has name appeal, 2 titles and Randy Couture. I believe the atmosphere is going to make each fight seem like the FOTN.

130 is a rugged card though, it'll probably have some great fights throughout, but if I've learned anything about watching UFCs is that can't really predict whats going to be an exciting fight, or where an upset might pop up.

I think alot of the fights at 129 will closer than people think.

As for Bocek vs Bendo, I don't know how Bocek wins it, his only weapon is the submission and if Henderson even lets it get to the ground he's notorious for evading and enduring submission attempts.

Also 129, Diaz vs Macdonald!!!
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129 is drenched in star dust. Ive been blinded by its potential magnificence.

130 is not so star dusty... but a juicy collection of fights never the less.

This is madness. They both rock hard.

The UFC doesn't f*uck around, does it?
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Old 03-11-2011, 03:49 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Yeah, but as soon as they have a streak of exactly ONE lackluster PPV, trolls start complaining that the UFC is becoming boring or that MMA is in decline.
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Can' be unbiased in this one. UFC 129 is coming to my hometown AND it has name appeal, 2 titles and Randy Couture. I believe the atmosphere is going to make each fight seem like the FOTN.
No doubt when you're there every fight feels amazing. I was at 123, which was a good card but even Machida Rampage seemed like a war haha. Nothing like being there.
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Old 03-12-2011, 05:47 AM   #40 (permalink)
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What?
Why are you confused ? Stann is a decent fighter trying to climb the ranks and this fight is an indication that they want to help him. So its lopsided and Stann should never lose to this guy unless he really is not that good , Santiago is a step back for Stann after Leben.
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