lol i dont even hate on him, look at my posts ive never even posted in the other threads where ppl hate on him, i really have nothing against him, its just this is beyond ridiculous
i have seen many fighters saying ''oh hes better than me in X area but i dont care'' and other things like that
but you come out and say that you think you can tap shogun even though you're a white belt? i guess this just shows how he really needs to learn more about the game, maybe he doesnt understand what a white belt is...come on..i train bjj...in shoguns gym
! lol...if he actually pulls this off i will be a fan for life, i guess its not disrespectful, just really, really, REALLY stupid
just because you are going into a fight you dont have to believe you can beat your opponent everywhere, i bet you AS didnt think he could out-wrestle chael for example
its a good mentality to have...but its just beyond ridiculous..keep dreamin son!
The bolded part! That should explain everything!
But, since you are a practitioner, i believe it is worth talking a bit about this:
So: You think it's impossible for a white belt to catch a black belt and submit him?!
It doesn't have to be a flying arm bar or an inverted triangle. Not even a normal triangle.
It can be as simple as getting someone's back and securing a RNC the other fighter to tap out. Or one could catch the other one in a guillotine. I believe it's not the hardest submission out there. That can force a tap also.
But, in your little perfect world, a white belt can't even dream about submitting a black belt, right?!
He can't even express an opinion. A sign of confidence. Even if it's over confidence, that is not for us to judge, because we don't get to know the fighters' abillities and capabilities at maximum (to put it this way).
KOing some1 is different than subbing some1, for a white belt to say that about a black belt, one of shoguns level is ridiculous, its not the same thing, knockouts can come out of anywhere as long as you have power, subbing ppl takes skill and thats it, sure he can hurt shogun then tap him, but to say he can just tap him out
So, let me get this straight?!
You're having a problem because he allegedly said: "i can tap him put" rather than saying "i could hurt him and then tapi him out"?! That is some weird shit right there!
...its like he doesnt respect BJJ
"It's like" - exactly, because that is your opinion about this. It's just your assumption regarding this whole situation.
Question: how can he not respect BJJ if he trains BJJ daily?! It's absurd!
i see no reason why he cant just say ''i doubt i can tap him out, i will try though''
This is the stupidest thing i've heard in a very long time! When have you ever heard a fighter going into a fight saying something that begins with "I DOUBT I CAN..."?!?!
Especially when your opponent sits 10 inches next to you!!!
You go: "i doubt i can submit him...but i'll try".
You will NEVER hear a fighter say something like this! NEVER!
''i wont tap him out but i will finish him''
He allegedly said: "i can tap him out", "not i will...".
And i can asure you he definitely can, if given the opportunity. Like i've already said - RNC, guillotine or anything not that fancy. He can.
I certain circumstances you CAN tap out Shogun yourself.
many fighters admit to not being as good as another in a certain area, you think shogun would say ''sure ill out wrestle jones''...no, because he knows he cant, so what? doesnt mean he doesnt think he will win the fight
the statement wasnt disrespectful, it was ignorant...hes young...he'll learn
also...forrest wasnt a black belt but he was light years ahead of JBJ
Every fighter that says: "i can do this" or "i can do that" is ignorrant in your opinion, right?!
The only ignorant thing here, is your attitude towards Jones.
I believe you when you say you have nothing against him, in general.
But please don't sell us bullshit like that right now. After you just came out and said you are training BJJ at Shogun's gym.
Subconsciously you hate Jones right now! At least untill the fight is over. Because the owner of the gym you're training at has a fight with this young kid, who said he could submit "your master". There.
If that's not taking sides (or biased) - i don't know what is!
PS: Don't consider me Shogun's hater or something like that.
knockouts can come out of anywhere as long as you have power, subbing ppl takes skill and thats it
Shogun is my second favorite LHW in the world btw.
This post was just me trying to use some logic and common sense, towards you being a bit to biased in this matter.