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Old 03-11-2011, 07:44 PM   #61 (permalink)
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way...

Here's silva stating he was 192 and would probably be at 185 before he even gets on the plane for the maia fight. It's the first video from the top; fast forward to the 6:00 mark.

Also if anderson actually made the water cut down from 205 do you think he would come into the official weigh in tipping the scale at 182 lbs like he did against lietes?
Before he got on the plane for the Maia fight?! - That could be one week before the fight, so it's perfectly understandable.

Like i've said: you expect him to be 215 lbs heavy until 2 days before the weigh ins??!

Also:

Silva talks cutting weight from 230 lbs

Is he lying?! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

Honestly, i don't think so. He is just talking about 2 different stages in his camps before going into a fight: onle close to the beggining of the camp, the other one close to the end of the camp.

Makes sense?!
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:50 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Before he got on the plane for the Maia fight?! - That could be one week before the fight, so it's perfectly understandable.

Like i've said: you expect him to be 215 lbs heavy until 2 days before the weigh ins??!

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Silva talks cutting weight from 230 lbs

Is he lying?! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

Honestly, i don't think so. He is just talking about 2 different stages in his camps before going into a fight: onle close to the beggining of the camp, the other one close to the end of the camp.

Makes sense?!
my post was in context to another poster who said that silva walks into the ring at 205 lbs. I provided a link that strongly suggests that he doesn't.


so hmmmmmm....

make sense?!
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Old 03-11-2011, 08:19 PM   #63 (permalink)
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my post was in context to another poster who said that silva walks into the ring at 205 lbs. I provided a link that strongly suggests that he doesn't.


so hmmmmmm....

make sense?!
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On fight night, I would wager Silva weighs about 205. Theres no way Silva walks around at 195 a month before the fight.
You trying to make a point, makes sense.
But i'm affraid you are wrong.

When Silva is fighting at MW, he is arround 200-205 lbs on fight night.
Soojooko was pretty right.
Just like GSP is arround 185-187 on fight night.
Fighters bulk up extremely fast after their weigh ins.
Thiago Alves for example was at arround 195 lbs when he fought GSP.
Forrest Griffin was at arround 220-225 on fight night against Franklin.

You saying Silva was 192 lbs before getting on the airplane before the Maia fight - i agree. But he was training hard and in the process of cutting the last pounds before the fight and the weigh ins.
Ptofesional fighters don't usually leave the hard part of cutting the last lbs, for the week in wich the fight takes place. It's easier this way and it's better for their body to get used to the new weight after carrying all the extra weight the weeks before the cutting took place.

Makes more sense now?!
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Old 03-11-2011, 08:50 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Typical Bias fan response. For a start im not a fan of either and i have issues with both. So to begin with you say
Anderson has "proven his worth outside his natural weight" well i disagree , beating Forrest who may weigh more but has the same reach as is 1 inch taller isnt giving away to much i may add and given that he was KO'ed the fight earlier and KO'ed a few fights earlier by Keith Jardine suggests that he was a great fight for Anderson. His first fight was Irvin who was cut and has lost 4 of his last 6 with 1 draw and 1 win great opponent . When people say GSP could Bulk up to 185 it makes me laugh every time , how do you know he could ? are you his trainer are you his nutritionist ? no so you're again assuming. Anderson is a big MW and GSP is WW but GSP at MW is smaller guy.

Answer me honestly do you really think Anderson would actually make the cut to 170 ? because i dont and even if he did and he lost i know the excuses would come out i.e he was weight drained or GSP is a ***** he should have moved up so like i said catch weight or GTFO.

If Edgar was good as he says he is he should move up in and weight and have no problem , thats your logic see how stupid it is.

To sum up you like Silva more so you will defend him to the hilt but your bias blinds you from the truth that is one way or another one guys gets a disadvantage if one moves up or down and i dont like that with so much on the line.

But if it helps you sleep at night keep thinking the way you do.
Edgar basically DID move up to fight at a weight higher than he should, and that's one of the reasons why he's so badass and respected lately.

Nobody would have blamed him if he lost and dropped down to 145.

You say you are not a fan of either, but it seems like you are defending the GSP a little.

McKeever nailed it. This is an extremely rare opportunity as a fight fan to watch the without a doubt two p4p champs go at it.

What's unfortunate is someones fans are going to be extremely sad when their fighter loses but... it would be worth it!

Nobody thinks GSP and Andy are the same size. Anderson clearly has a slight size advantage. But it's not THAT big. I bet GSP could squat more than Andy.

This fight would be without question the biggest match in UFC history to date and should happen if GSP can beat a tough Jake Shields.
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Old 03-12-2011, 05:57 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Edgar basically DID move up to fight at a weight higher than he should, and that's one of the reasons why he's so badass and respected lately.

Edgar didnt move up though its not the same , he has been at LW his whole career now you're asking GSP to move up to a new weight to fight a guy who looks comfortable in the weight above that...............

Nobody would have blamed him if he lost and dropped down to 145.

You say you are not a fan of either, but it seems like you are defending the GSP a little.

This isnt the case , but it may seem that way because the only ones pushing for the fight are Silva fans so i have argue with them alot more.

McKeever nailed it. This is an extremely rare opportunity as a fight fan to watch the without a doubt two p4p champs go at it.

What's unfortunate is someones fans are going to be extremely sad when their fighter loses but... it would be worth it!

Nobody thinks GSP and Andy are the same size. Anderson clearly has a slight size advantage. But it's not THAT big. I bet GSP could squat more than Andy.

This fight would be without question the biggest match in UFC history to date and should happen if GSP can beat a tough Jake Shields.
GSP and Silva should meet in the middle or i dont want to see one guy get an unfair advantage.

Can you imagine if GSP moves and gets KO'ed the repercussions from Silva fans , or if Silva moves down and gasses , there is too much at risk to give edges away so catch weight or nothing i say we dont need a belt because who wins is the champ.
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The majority of fans/journalist have Anderson Silva as the number one.
Honestly though, "P4P" Is throw around so much today that Im starting to wonder If people really know the meaning of It anymore.

Here's how I always saw pound for pound. Imagine a magical place where every single fighter weighed exactly the same, but had all their strengths and weaknesses.

Who would win? A 200lbs GSP vs a 200lbs Silva, I would put my money on GSP 9 outta 10 times. But I would place my money on Cain 6 outta 10 times against GSP.

Therefore, all the fans/journalists are wrong and Cain is the P4P best fighter on the planet.
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Therefore, all the fans/journalists are wrong and Cain is the P4P best fighter on the planet.
Something I'm convinced will be the truth in time.
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Honestly though, "P4P" Is throw around so much today that Im starting to wonder If people really know the meaning of It anymore.

Here's how I always saw pound for pound. Imagine a magical place where every single fighter weighed exactly the same, but had all their strengths and weaknesses.

Who would win? A 200lbs GSP vs a 200lbs Silva, I would put my money on GSP 9 outta 10 times. But I would place my money on Cain 6 outta 10 times against GSP.

Therefore, all the fans/journalists are wrong and Cain is the P4P best fighter on the planet.
Thats exactly what P4P is supposed to mean. sugar ray robinson is the reason P4P was created as he had a better skill-set then anybody at the time but they couldn't say he was the No.1 because obviously the heavier weight guys would beat him so they created it.
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