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post #21 of 39 (permalink) Old 03-11-2011, 08:38 AM
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I think i'm the only one who doesn't see anything in davis at all.

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You don't notice how he's getting better each fight? His base is wrestling, already a good start. He translates it well to MMA wrestling and he's actually shown some impressive submissions off for being so green to the sport. There is a lot to see in this kid.

Even if he loses to Lil Nog, the future is still bright.
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You don't notice how he's getting better each fight? His base is wrestling, already a good start. He translates it well to MMA wrestling and he's actually shown some impressive submissions off for being so green to the sport. There is a lot to see in this kid.

Even if he loses to Lil Nog, the future is still bright.
he just hasn't looked impressive IMO(meaning a future top LHW impressive)

he out-grappled stann. not much there
he out-grappled boetsch whose weakness is wrestling
he outgrappled rodney wallace(i have no idea who he is)
he out-grappled gustaffan. who he really had to fight to get to the ground.


Gustaffan is his best win but gustaffan does looks like a very good prospect.


I still see him losing to lil nog and not being a legit top 10 LHW, i see him being borderline top 10


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he just hasn't looked impressive IMO(meaning a future top LHW impressive)

he out-grappled stann. not much there
he out-grappled boetsch whose weakness is wrestling
he outgrappled rodney wallace(i have no idea who he is)
he out-grappled gustaffan. who he really had to fight to get to the ground.


Gustaffan is his best win but gustaffan does looks like a very good prospect.


I still see him losing to lil nog and not being a legit top 10 LHW, i see him being borderline top 10
Still, not many fighters come into the UFC and win their first 4 fights without being in even a speck of trouble. Even those with "easy" fights.
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I like Davis, he's one of the funnier fighters on the roster, but I cant help but find his style boring. His take downs arn't as flashy or as cool as Jones' (not that they need to be, but theres some thing about the way Jones literally rag dolls and tosses his opponents to the floor which amazes me), his GNP isn't any thing special at all and his stand up is lets say, a work in progress. He's got talent, thats for sure, but I wont be rooting for him, I think his style is boring.
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I like Davis, he's one of the funnier fighters on the roster, but I cant help but find his style boring. His take downs arn't as flashy or as cool as Jones' (not that they need to be, but theres some thing about the way Jones literally rag dolls and tosses his opponents to the floor which amazes me), his GNP isn't any thing special at all and his stand up is lets say, a work in progress. He's got talent, thats for sure, but I wont be rooting for him, I think his style is boring.
Thats exactly how i feel about him. he kinda just seems like some other generic wrestler but with more of a submission game.

IMHO i believe he just got caught riding on the left overs of the bones hype and also his physique. like after his first fight in the UFC rogen was like "how good would be davis vs jon jones be" and then people started talking about it (i don't know if it was like that on this site as i wasn't posting here then)and i just thought it was absurd.


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Ugh guy incognito you really showed your true colors in this thread, I guess you finally made the ignore list.



And IMO Davis' wins over Gustafsson and Stann are big. Brian Stann was the WEC LHW Champ and he's looked like a beast in most of his fights. Gustafsson is a sleeper, the dude has always been a monster and no-one has even come close to handling him like Phil Davis did. I doubt Gustafsson will lose to anyone until he's fighting top 5 guys.



People don't really know much about Diabate (the guy Gustafsson smashed recently), but his only losses since 2005 are to Shogun and Gustafsson. And Davis was leagues above him. If he gets a dominant victory over Rogerio I will be seriously impressed.

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I like his personality and see him as a guy who will be consistently top ten once he gets into his prime. I think Gustafsson is actually going to be the better fighter when everything is said and done though.
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I like Davis, he's one of the funnier fighters on the roster, but I cant help but find his style boring. His take downs arn't as flashy or as cool as Jones' (not that they need to be, but theres some thing about the way Jones literally rag dolls and tosses his opponents to the floor which amazes me), his GNP isn't any thing special at all and his stand up is lets say, a work in progress. He's got talent, thats for sure, but I wont be rooting for him, I think his style is boring.
See i don't see it that way at all. His GnP isn't special but his BJJ sure as hell is. He owned at the ADCC champs and in MMA you can see he is constantly working for a sub - he hardly ever rests. I'm with you on his wrestling he seems to have that more workman like grinding wrestling style as opposed to the explosive type Jones has.

Don't want to derail this thread by bumming another fighter but didn't Joe Rogan say that Chris Weidman beat both Bader and Davis at wrestling whilst in college... Thats a pretty epic achievement!

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Really dig Davis' personality and style, hope he wins this one and keeps the roll going.

If he can keep improving his stand up, and get it to a decent level for MMA, he'll be a force to be reckoned with.
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