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post #1 of 78 (permalink) Old 03-13-2011, 12:57 PM Thread Starter
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Joe Rogan tries to save Paul Daley from himself

Paul Daley unsure if he wants to fight for Zuffa-owned Strikeforce; Joe Rogan weighs in
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It seems Zuffa's shocking purchase of chief rival Strikeforce ruffled a few feathers. Count Paul Daley among those disappointed with the move.

The ultra talented, heavy-handed welterweight was famously deleted from the UFC after sucker punching UFC welterweight contender Josh Koscheck following a thorough and frustrating loss to the AKA product.

The action was widely criticized in fan and media circles and the UFC was swift in distancing itself from the fighter, promply dropping him from the promotion following the fight. UFC president Dana White, in particular, was furious with Daley's actions, stating that he would never fight for the promotion again. Daley issued an apology in the days following and was subsequently signed by Strikeforce.

Yesterday, after announcing the acquisition of Strikeforce, White made it clear that the two businesses would operate exactly as they had before. Former Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker would continue to run the organization and all contracts would be honored. White said that regardless of the purchase, the two organizations would operate their businesses as usual. A term Daley took exception to in a recent post on the Underground.

"Business as usual, what if i dont wanna fight for DANA WHITE/ZUFFA?......," Daley posted. "Dana white bans me for life from the UFC, Then buys STRIKEFORCE, and thinks im still gonna be EASY and fight on one of the most anticipated fights of the year (vs Diaz)? Which will no doubt make ZUFFA/Dana White money. Daley vs Diaz still on?.....Someone better holla at my manager real quick."

Daley went on to state that he was considering continuing on with UK promotion BAMMA, where he fought his last fight, earning a first-round knockout win over Yuya Shirai.

"Not sure what im gonna do right now, honestly...," Daley wrote, "fight for the Strikeforce and be Strikeforce champ, put money in ZUFFA/Dana Whites pockets? Or fight here in the UK for BAMMA, who appreciate my brand, and have my loyal fans, family and media support me. For real."

UFC color commentator Joe Rogan saw the post and tried to play peacemaker.

"I think Paul is one of the most exciting guys in the division, and I've talked to Dana about this recently," Rogan stated. "Dana is a very fair guy. I even told him about Paul's heartfelt apology that he wrote when he got back to the UK. All of this can be worked out, in my opinion. What would f*ck it up real bad though, is a bunch of nonsensical shit talking on a messageboard before we know all the facts."
Good ol Rogan. He's always had a soft spot for Daley.
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post #2 of 78 (permalink) Old 03-13-2011, 01:03 PM
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Daley just exhibiting another emotional outburts like the one that got him banned.

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Daley needs to make himself a big a name as he can, by beating Diaz and his ilk. Mouthing off like this won't help. I believe Dana would absorb him along with the rest of SF in a year or two - but not while he's being this sensitive.
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Daley is really shooting himself in the foot. He has to accept that he was rightly fired for striking an opponent after the fight ended. You just can't do that,. its the most basic and severe flagrancy of the code of professional fighting
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I agree...he has every right to not fight for Zuffa
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I agree...he has every right to not fight for Zuffa
He may have every right to choose who he works for but he has no rational complaint for having been fired in the first place and in my opinion he should be kissing their arses and begging forgiveness for his actions.

I wrote this in a previous thread already, but it was kind of off topic in reply to a single post and got lost in the mass posting reaction to Zuffa buying Strikeforce but for the record.....

He was 100% in the wrong, heat of the moment or not.

The UFC is a massive organisation trying to expand and make mma the number one sport in the world, one of the major stumbling blocks to making UFC/MMA a mainstream product is notions and public perception of the sport being barbaric and 'human cock fighting'

Daley's attempted sucker punch was attempted assault and the actions of a thug (the type of actions that support the notion of mma being barbaric human cock fighting)

Daley is a trained fighter and his hands are deadly weapons, he would be treated as having used a deadly weapon if he attacked someone in the street because of his fighting skills, so I don't accept comparisons with brawls in other sports like Ice Hockey/Football/Soccer/Basketball whatever.

The key difference is Daley is an experienced and trained martial artist and as such he is a lethal weapon his sucker punch on Koshcheck could have could serious damage had he not failed to properly connect and it was a disgusting act.

I have no problem with Dana White or the UFC taking a hard line zero tolerance approach with him for what he did (it is much worse than what Herring did before the bell after being kissed I feel also)

I think the door should be open in the future to him, but he should be totally apologetic and remorseful for what he did and he has to respect his role as an mma fighter in presenting the image of mma and mma fighters if he ever wants to be accepted back in to the UFC.

The only way I see it happening is if he does this and his performances make him the greatest in his division and public demand becomes so huge to see him versus the current UFC champ in his weight at such time that it simply has to be done.
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Daley is a moron. If he pulls out of that fight Zuffa will sue him for more money than he will make in the rest of his career and win.
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I agree...he has every right to not fight for Zuffa
Ofcourse.

And Zuffa has more of a right to Ban Paul Daley and create a commercial for "Fair Fighting" awareness. And show Daley getting his ass kicked then being bitter and cheap shotting KOS.

Oh how i would love that. Commercials to pretty much show how pathetic Daley is.

Not even sure if its legal haha but with the contracts Zuffa have. Who knows...

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he should be kissing their arses and begging forgiveness for his actions.
He doesnt have to do a damn thing.....and if Dana wants to band him fromt he UFC, so be it. Zuffa and the Fertitta Bro.s make the decisions, with Dana as the mouthpiece.

BAMMA, Bellator, Shine, etc.....its not necessary for Paul Daley to be on anyones testicles. Dana White can find some more muay thai aces and standout wrestlers from elsewhere.
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He doesnt have to do a damn thing.....and if Dana wants to band him fromt he UFC, so be it. Zuffa and the Fertitta Bro.s make the decisions, with Dana as the mouthpiece.

BAMMA, Bellator, Shine, etc.....its not necessary for Paul Daley to be on anyones testicles. Dana White can find some more muay thai aces and standout wrestlers from elsewhere.
He doesn't have to of course, but then he will be stuck fighting for low level companies like the ones you listed for the rest of his career.

The bottom line is Daley is not a big enough player in the mma world for the UFC to really care about and that is another reason they can take such a firm stance with him.

They are far bigger than him and currently he would add little to their division (his last fight was them was a decisive loss and there is nothing to suggest he could beat GSP)

He was completely in the wrong and he was rightfully sacked, what more is there to say really? he doesn't need to be kissing arse, but he should be because he is in the wrong.

He can be stubborn, and he can spend his time BAMMA fighting no bodies once his strikeforce contract expires.
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