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Old 03-15-2011, 03:02 PM   #41 (permalink)
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see the thing is andersons been trying to fight for the p4p title but gsp been trying to avoid the fight...
GSP fought BJ when he was ranked 3rd, Anderson refused to fight Machida after BJ lost and Machida was 3rd. Anderson didn't fight Rashad who has always been on the list. The UFC made Jake Shields who was a MW on the p4p list drop down to WW to face GSP.

I don't get how the guy who has fought two guys on the p4p list (Penn, Fitch) and is taking on a third (Shields) is a coward over a guy who hasn't faced any 205ers on the list.
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:10 PM   #42 (permalink)
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.....And frankly after Anderson's Light Heavyweight title run I will never trust him again.
ummm......... what?
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:12 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I believe three out of his four loses were to WW's (Okami, Chonan, and Azeredo) so it's funny that the article claims him as a temp LHW.
He did not lose to Okami he got dq, Ryo Chonan was a mircle comeback silva was kicking his ass all fight, azeredo was his first mma fight. Plus he has beaten wws in his time such as carlos newton.
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GSP fought BJ when he was ranked 3rd, Anderson refused to fight Machida after BJ lost and Machida was 3rd. Anderson didn't fight Rashad who has always been on the list. The UFC made Jake Shields who was a MW on the p4p list drop down to WW to face GSP.

I don't get how the guy who has fought two guys on the p4p list (Penn, Fitch) and is taking on a third (Shields) is a coward over a guy who hasn't faced any 205ers on the list.
Jake Shields is on the P4P list because he is a WW who had a win streak in that weight class who moved up to MW and won some fights and a title. BJ was on the P4P list because he was a LW who moved up to WW and won the title. GSP fought a smaller guy moving up in a super fight. Now that he doesn't have the advantage of being the naturally bigger guy in the super fight he waffles and wants a catchweight.

Andy won't fight Machida because they are close friends and stablemates and I don't remember Rashad ever being offered to him. The UFC doesn't want to use Andy at 205 unless he is staying there because him wrecking contenders would **** up the division. Which is why Dana wants GSP to move up to 185, challenge for the belt, and stay there. The UFC doesn't have a super fight model they want guys to pick a division. Andy is really the only guy who has bounced to another weight class won and not stayed there that I can remember.
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:25 PM   #45 (permalink)
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ummm......... what?
C'mon on now, I know fans are prisoners of the moment but you don't remember 4 fights ago when he took on Griffin right after Griffin lost the title. He then decided that he was to good of a friend to Machida to fight for the title.

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Jake Shields is on the P4P list because he is a WW who had a win streak in that weight class who moved up to MW and won some fights and a title. BJ was on the P4P list because he was a LW who moved up to WW and won the title. GSP fought a smaller guy moving up in a super fight. Now that he doesn't have the advantage of being the naturally bigger guy in the super fight he waffles and wants a catchweight.

Andy won't fight Machida because they are close friends and stablemates and I don't remember Rashad ever being offered to him. The UFC doesn't want to use Andy at 205 unless he is staying there because him wrecking contenders would **** up the division. Which is why Dana wants GSP to move up to 185, challenge for the belt, and stay there. The UFC doesn't have a super fight model they want guys to pick a division. Andy is really the only guy who has bounced to another weight class won and not stayed there that I can remember.
Shields has beaten Okami, Miller, Lawler and Henderson, he also has the longest win streak(2,500 days) of anyone else on that list and if he beats GSP he's likely going to break Fedor's record of 3,500 days without a loss.

BJ was on the list because he held titles in both classes and was the only LW in consideration for the p4p list.

You also forgot Jon Fitch who's on the list.

As for fighters who didn't stick in weight classes that they were winning in IIRC Vera 8-2, Sanchez went 2-1, Belfort...5 or 6 and 1 before the catch weights and middleweight fights.
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C'mon on now, I know fans are prisoners of the moment but you don't remember 4 fights ago when he took on Griffin right after Griffin lost the title. He then decided that he was to good of a friend to Machida to fight for the title.
When was that ever a title run?
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GSP still needs to do something to even be considered p4p king beating chumps in 5round decisions doesnt cut it, hes defended his belt in Fitch fashion which is by far the weakest way to take a win lol maybe if GSP had some KOs or even TKOs i wouldn't hate but when your a champ that cant finish , in a combative sport it really says alot , GSP it isnt WUFC , take this last fight as no one will care about you after Silva flash KOs you . Your legacy will be drowned with grease as your nothing more then a cheater and a fake . YES I KNOW IT WASN'T AGAINST THE RULES TO GREASE BUT IF YOU CANT SEE THE VIDEO FOR WHAT IT WAS , EVIDENCE OF WRONG DOING then your allowing your fanboyism to make a decision for you rather then intuition.
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C'mon on now, I know fans are prisoners of the moment but you don't remember 4 fights ago when he took on Griffin right after Griffin lost the title. He then decided that he was to good of a friend to Machida to fight for the title.
That happened because Andy was pissed off about the lack of legit name challengers he was getting at MW at the time and his contract was coming up. There was never any plan for him to challenge for the title. Once MW got better they just decided for him to stay at MW. He was pretty clear about just wanting bigger fights and not wanting to make a permanent move.
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GSP fought BJ when he was ranked 3rd, Anderson refused to fight Machida after BJ lost and Machida was 3rd. Anderson didn't fight Rashad who has always been on the list. The UFC made Jake Shields who was a MW on the p4p list drop down to WW to face GSP.

I don't get how the guy who has fought two guys on the p4p list (Penn, Fitch) and is taking on a third (Shields) is a coward over a guy who hasn't faced any 205ers on the list.
First of all Bj took the CHALLENGE of fighting Gsp not the other way around. Gsp had a huge weight advantage over him. Bj could easily be Featherweight. Fitch is on the p4p list???? UFC asked jake shields to drop the weight and he looked drained when he fought Kampmann.
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C'mon on now, I know fans are prisoners of the moment but you don't remember 4 fights ago when he took on Griffin right after Griffin lost the title. He then decided that he was to good of a friend to Machida to fight for the title.
Well....it was 8 months or so....after Griffin had broken his hand against Rashad. ...sooo.... that's not really right after, eh? It was Griffin's next fight, true.... but that was Anderson's second fight at LHW in the UFC, no? Yes, I suppose you can say that he was fighting the ex-champ and all... but I never saw that as a LHW campaign from Anderson. I saw as more as Anderson being bored and looking for some challenge.

just my opinion of course.
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