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Old 03-16-2011, 04:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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the strikeforce and showtime deal runs in out in 2014?

On one hand we get strikeforce for 3 more years, which is good (cuz lets face it zuffa will dissolve it ASAP) But on the flip side most of these so called dream fights will never see the light of day..Listen to dana and whats his face during the conference calls.They kept saying if the fans want to see it, well then they will make it happen. Well these fans have wanted to see gsp/anderson for 2 and a half years and it hasnt happened (and these are 2 signed fighters)

No this is one of those instances (much like the sonnen/silva immediate rematch announcement) where zuffa are capitalizing on the ufc fans lack of MMA awareness.See by putting a melendez/edgar fight as soon a possible that would be an admission that SF was a legitimate contender. They know that the fairweathers would have never heard melendez/souza/mousasi so there is no rush to make such a fight when available..They sooner sign these fighters on the cheap and build them

Personally I could care less about melendez/thompson (they'd get exposed in the ufc)..The same with mousasi hed be a feast for wrestlers..Souza intrigues me a little more but I fear hes just a slightly better maia..So the only real asset here they've acquired (thats never sniffed the UFC) is alistair...Who has a wave of momentum but as we all know prefers SF unrestricted contract structure..Who is to say he doesnt just re-sign with strikeforce when his current contract ends & sticks around til 2014..

A lot can change in 3 years and in a sport thats all about the here and now I just dont see anything about this deal thats good for the fans, maybe someone can enlighten me..
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the strikeforce and showtime deal runs in out in 2014?

On one hand we get strikeforce for 3 more years, which is good (cuz lets face it zuffa will dissolve it ASAP) But on the flip side most of these so called dream fights will never see the light of day..Listen to dana and whats his face during the conference calls.They kept saying if the fans want to see it, well then they will make it happen. Well these fans have wanted to see gsp/anderson for 2 and a half years and it hasnt happened (and these are 2 signed fighters)

No this is one of those instances (much like the sonnen/silva immediate rematch announcement) where zuffa are capitalizing on the ufc fans lack of MMA awareness.See by putting a melendez/edgar fight as soon a possible that would be an admission that SF was a legitimate contender. They know that the fairweathers would have never heard melendez/souza/mousasi so there is no rush to make such a fight when available..They sooner sign these fighters on the cheap and build them

Personally I could care less about melendez/thompson (they'd get exposed in the ufc)..The same with mousasi hed be a feast for wrestlers..Souza intrigues me a little more but I fear hes just a slightly better maia..So the only real asset here they've acquired (thats never sniffed the UFC) is alistair...Who has a wave of momentum but as we all know prefers SF unrestricted contract structure..Who is to say he doesnt just re-sign with strikeforce when his current contract ends & sticks around til 2014..

A lot can change in 3 years and in a sport thats all about the here and now I just dont see anything about this deal thats good for the fans, maybe someone can enlighten me..
Its early days. Give it a few months and all will become clearer. Personally, I'm completely convinced we will see fighters swap from one org to the other well before the Showtime deal is up.
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Its early days. Give it a few months and all will become clearer. Personally, I'm completely convinced we will see fighters swap from one org to the other well before the Showtime deal is up.
But what fighters can actually come into ufc and rock the house? shields was suppose to be this p4p upper echelon fighter, his match with the french canadian that wants no part of anderson was said by many to be a dream match but look at the struggle he had against the lowly kampman..Melendez has a chip on his shoulder and always thought the media/fans never gave him his due but who has he beat? thompson is meh, aoki? who in dream didnt get exposed once they faced real n.american competition..The guy has an over inflated opinion of his abilities hed be mauled by maynard, gulliard, pelligrino, sherk e.t.c Kennedy is not even sure he wants to fight.Melvin well ...... Lawler? (see melvin)

So other than the overeem who do u seriously think can hang with ufcs elite? diaz?
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So other than the overeem who do u seriously think can hang with ufcs elite? diaz?
Do you even know anyone in the SF roster?

-Mousasi
-King Mo
-Dan Henderson
-Feijao
-Kharintonov
-Rogers (For raitings not for skill)
-Fedor
-Melendez
-Aoki
-Calvalcante (LW)
-Diaz
-OSP
-Daley
-Jacare
-Evangelista
-Ribiero
-Masvidal
-Griggs
-Kennedy
-Babalu
-Gracie
-Le
-Miller
-Manhoef
-Lawler
-Zaromskis
-Woodley
-Beerbohm
-Thomson
-Noons
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Do you even know anyone in the SF roster?

-Mousasi
-King Mo
-Dan Henderson
-Feijao
-Kharintonov
-Rogers (For raitings not for skill)
-Fedor
-Melendez
-Aoki
-Calvalcante (LW)
-Diaz

-OSP
-Daley
-Jacare
-Evangelista
-Ribiero
-Masvidal
-Griggs
-Kennedy
-Babalu
-Gracie
-Le
-Miller
-Manhoef
-Lawler
-Zaromskis
-Woodley
-Beerbohm
-Thomson
-Noons

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Do you even know anyone in the SF roster?

-Mousasi
-King Mo
-Dan Henderson
-Feijao
-Kharintonov
-Rogers (For raitings not for skill)
-Fedor
-Melendez
-Aoki
-Calvalcante (LW)
-Diaz
-OSP
-Daley
-Jacare
-Evangelista
-Ribiero
-Masvidal
-Griggs
-Kennedy
-Babalu
-Gracie
-Le
-Miller
-Manhoef
-Lawler
-Zaromskis
-Woodley
-Beerbohm
-Thomson
-Noons
I may be misunderstanding what you are saying here. Are you saying the above fighters in strikeforce can hang with the UFC's elite? There are a lot of names above that absolutely could not be middle of the pack in the UFC let alone hang with the top tier fighters.
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I may be misunderstanding what you are saying here. Are you saying the above fighters in strikeforce can hang with the UFC's elite? There are a lot of names above that absolutely could not be middle of the pack in the UFC let alone hang with the top tier fighters.
I think his point was that there are alot of SF guys who would be great additions to the UFC, and make for some interesting matches. Some can hang with the Elite aswell some will fit in the top 5 or 10 of their divisions.
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Do you even know anyone in the SF roster?

-Mousasi-Did you not see his fight against king MO? better still answer this question, what type of fighters does the ufc have a plethora of
-King Mo- You honestly think this guy would go far with his limited striking/cardio
-Dan Henderson- Hes already been in the ufc read my intiial posts
-Feijao
-Kharintonov
-Rogers (For raitings not for skill)
-Fedor - hes never goin to sign so why mention him
-Melendez - Already covered him
-Aoki - Already covered him (with elbows on the ground/wrestler laden north american mma u really think this guy would survive?
-Calvalcante (LW)
-Diaz
-OSP -
-Daley
-Jacare
-Evangelista - wow,really?
-Ribiero
-Masvidal - meh
-Griggs - mentioing this guy indicates to me u are either drunk or didnt get the question at all, wow
-Kennedy-
-Babalu - but this guy was friggin washed up when he was in the ufc tho, do you even understand the question?
-Gracie
-Le
-Miller -Has been out of the ufc for a reason
-Manhoef -This guy is worse than mcfredries and thats saying somethin
-Lawler - see mayhem
-Zaromskis- fraud that couldnt cut it in strikeforce? hello?
-Woodley - just another gerald harris
-Beerbohm - who?
-Thomson-already covered him
-Noons- journeyman
Whats the point of mentioning all these names, I know where the strikeforce website is, go read my question again because it clearly went over your head
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Whats the point of mentioning all these names, I know where the strikeforce website is, go read my question again because it clearly went over your head
What about all those guys you didnt put a comment next to ? i think the point went over your head , which was SF has a decent roster with capable guys.

And in answer to the thread , i wouldnt worry about the dream match ups , they will be made its probably in Dana's top 3 reasons why he purchased SF along side eliminating competition and having a monopoly, If money can be made from these fights then Dana will make them and there is no barriers stopping him now.
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Whats the point of mentioning all these names, I know where the strikeforce website is, go read my question again because it clearly went over your head
12 people that you didn't have a stupid comment for. Thats 12 people to answer your original question. Not to mention MANY of your bolded points were totally stupid and many made no sense.
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