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Old 03-16-2011, 05:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rashad and Jones beef heating up.

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Rashad Evans waited a long time to get his shot at the UFC light heavyweight belt against Mauricio Rua. Then he suffered an injury that would keep him out 6-8 weeks. Evans was hoping the fight would be delayed, but the UFC's troubles were averted when Jon Jones stepped in on short notice. One problem, Jones is a teammate of Evans and now the former UFC 205-pound champ is peeved at "Bones."

"When he joined the team, he joined the team on the premise that he wouldn't fight none of us because that's…with Greg Jackson, that's one of his policies. Greg brought him on the team and he said he was like, you know what? Jon's on this team, he'll be a good addition to the team. He's got a good style and he's an up and coming kid and he'll never fight you or never challenge you or nothing like that," Evans told Larry Pepe. "There's nothing you need to worry about. He brought him onto the team with that intro."

Jones didn't get the memo and jumped at the opportunity to take on Rua at UFC 128. He's clearly aware that Evans isn't happy and snapped off during last week's prefight teleconference.

"I absolutely hate when people mention Rashad Evans, especially throughout this training camp….for people to even be mentioning Rashad Evans right now…I think it's ludicrous. Rashad is not in my mind, he's not in my being, he has absolutely zero to do with my heart and who I am right now," Jones said. "This guy has nothing to do with Shogun and from here on out, I don't think I'll answer a question about Rashad. I have a lot of people outside of Rashad who I can draw energy and power from and they'll all be with me."

Evans got the message and said Jones is speaking out of inexperience.

"That does sound a little bit cold-blooded. Jon's a young guy and when you're a young guy sometimes you talk a little too fast for your brain to keep up. I don't think it's acceptable at all. I don't think it's something I'd say. It sounds like he wants to fight, huh? Those sound like fighting words," Jones told Pepe. ".[...] Sometimes when you open your mouth you show what you're afraid of more than anything. I don't know why he has such an adverse response like that to me. I've never challenged him or made him feel like he should do that sort of thing. It sounds to me — if I was out of the situation — that he was feeling insecure about me. You can't just expect to not talk about a situation where you stepped in for a friend and training partner in a title fight who was injured. You can't take it personal… That sounds like a baby."

If Jones wins the title, Evans has to consider taking the fight and more significantly leaving the only training he's known in Albuquerque under Greg Jackson.

"It's something I gotta talk to Greg [Jackson] about it and I gotta talk to Jon [Jones] about. That's how I believe things should be done. We entered into an agreement together and if things are gonna go another way, I don't think he should have to find out from TV. He should find out from my mouth before I tell anybody. That's just how I do it as a man.I just have to sit down and decide on whats its going to be, because whatever it is going to be, there is no going back. There is no making it better. There is no going back to the team after it is done. If we agree to fight, if we say we are going to fight, it's over," Evans said. "[...] I would need to divorce myself from the situation and just start over, and come with something new. I would divorce myself from the crew from Jackson's. Trevor [Whittman] would be separate because he is at Grudge. Jon trains in Albuquerque, so I just would divorce myself from Albuquerque and from training with Greg."

Dana White is pretty clear on his thoughts about friendship being a roadblock anywhere in the fight game. He's happy that Evans is finally seeing the light.

"It makes sense [that they fight each other if Jones wins the title]. There's been a lot of stuff [said by] Rashad. Rashad thinks that I'm hatin' him or whatever the deal is. I don't. The reality is — I said it on your show the last time I talked to you — he hasn't known Jon Jones that long. To call him a brother and this and that…I really believe that…and Rashad didn't tell me this. Jon Jones didn't tell me this. This is just something that I came up with in my head. This has to be coming from the camp," White told MMAFighting.com. "[...] The reality is, this isn't a team sport, man. You look throughout the history of boxing, guys used to have to spar with each other all the time and the guys who came in as sparring partners eventually became world champions some day. You have to train with other people. You have to train with the best. It's a fact. You just don't become such "close friends" that you don't want to fight each other. It's [expletive]."

Evans should straight out call for the winner regardless of training camps and "friendships."

"If I was Rashad, I would say whoever wins this fight I wanna fight," White said. "The guy got injured; he was next in line for the fight. I'd wanna fight him too. But now he's gotta sit around, he's gotta wait and see what happens with these two, he's gotta wait to see who wins — do they come out 100 percent or are they injured and have to wait a little while or do they want to fight again? He's put himself into a bad position and that's what I was saying about him: He's boxed himself into this corner."
You guys know... il be by myself on this. I have never heard Jon jones full comments when talking about Rashad. So i kept thinking that its pretty silly for Rashad to get mad over the stuff i read. But after reading the full quote here, i can understand why Rashad is a little ticked off. The way Jon Jones went about it was kind of a slap in the face.

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"I absolutely hate when people mention Rashad Evans, especially throughout this training camp….for people to even be mentioning Rashad Evans right now…I think it's ludicrous. Rashad is not in my mind, he's not in my being, he has absolutely zero to do with my heart and who I am right now," Jones said. "This guy has nothing to do with Shogun and from here on out, I don't think I'll answer a question about Rashad. I have a lot of people outside of Rashad who I can draw energy and power from and they'll all be with me."
Its a pretty harsh comment. A second ago they dont want to fight because they are like brothers. Next he says that Rashad isnt even in his mind or who he is. He will find energy and power out of other people?? Like Rashad has been dragging him down or something?

I realize most of you guys are ok with Jones saying this stuff but i personally find it disrespectful. So if Rashad thinks there is beef i can full understand.

But a phone call to Jon Jones and Greg is in order and i hope Rashad goes through with it. It just seems like MMA fighters dont have good friends or something. Because it would never get to this point with my friends.. especially not in the public eye. Its just respect imo to keep your dirty laundry between each other.
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Old 03-16-2011, 06:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Rashad is a big baby, he made it sound like they the closest friends and when Jones kind of threw that out the window, it made him look stupid.

Now he has come to trash talking days before the big fight, must suck for Jones to be going through with this right now.
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It wasn't a slap in the face AT ALL. He's tired of hearing about Rashad when he's trying to focus on Shogun. Stop trying to make more Jones hating threads. It's just stupid now.
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You guys know... il be by myself on this. I have never heard Jon jones full comments when talking about Rashad. So i kept thinking that its pretty silly for Rashad to get mad over the stuff i read. But after reading the full quote here, i can understand why Rashad is a little ticked off. The way Jon Jones went about it was kind of a slap in the face.



Its a pretty harsh comment. A second ago they dont want to fight because they are like brothers. Next he says that Rashad isnt even in his mind or who he is. He will find energy and power out of other people?? Like Rashad has been dragging him down or something?

I realize most of you guys are ok with Jones saying this stuff but i personally find it disrespectful. So if Rashad thinks there is beef i can full understand.

But a phone call to Jon Jones and Greg is in order and i hope Rashad goes through with it. It just seems like MMA fighters dont have good friends or something. Because it would never get to this point with my friends.. especially not in the public eye. Its just respect imo to keep your dirty laundry between each other.
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Old 03-16-2011, 06:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It wasn't a slap in the face AT ALL. He's tired of hearing about Rashad when he's trying to focus on Shogun. Stop trying to make more Jones hating threads. It's just stupid now.
He could have just said "Im tired of hearing about Rashad, next question"


Btw... who is making Jones hating threads?? I have not made a single one. And i certainly dont see any on the first page.

We make threads to discuss subject matter. If my opinion goes against Jones then so be it. It hardly means that it is a Jones hating thread.

Get out of here.. your annoying me.
No need for you to post here if you are on the verge of crying.
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Old 03-16-2011, 06:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You guys know... il be by myself on this. I have never heard Jon jones full comments when talking about Rashad. So i kept thinking that its pretty silly for Rashad to get mad over the stuff i read. But after reading the full quote here, i can understand why Rashad is a little ticked off. The way Jon Jones went about it was kind of a slap in the face.

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"I absolutely hate when people mention Rashad Evans, especially throughout this training camp….for people to even be mentioning Rashad Evans right now…I think it's ludicrous. Rashad is not in my mind, he's not in my being, he has absolutely zero to do with my heart and who I am right now," Jones said. "This guy has nothing to do with Shogun and from here on out, I don't think I'll answer a question about Rashad. I have a lot of people outside of Rashad who I can draw energy and power from and they'll all be with me."
Its a pretty harsh comment. A second ago they dont want to fight because they are like brothers. Next he says that Rashad isnt even in his mind or who he is. He will find energy and power out of other people?? Like Rashad has been dragging him down or something?

I realize most of you guys are ok with Jones saying this stuff but i personally find it disrespectful. So if Rashad thinks there is beef i can full understand.

But a phone call to Jon Jones and Greg is in order and i hope Rashad goes through with it. It just seems like MMA fighters dont have good friends or something. Because it would never get to this point with my friends.. especially not in the public eye. Its just respect imo to keep your dirty laundry between each other.
The blue text. It's one week old, nothing new. Has been discussed here last Thursday and Friday.

Don't really know why you made another thread about this subject when there are 2 already. But i will like to thank you for posting this, especially the first part: Rashad's comments. It's something new, at least for me.

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"When he joined the team, he joined the team on the premise that he wouldn't fight none of us because that's…with Greg Jackson, that's one of his policies. Greg brought him on the team and he said he was like, you know what? Jon's on this team, he'll be a good addition to the team. He's got a good style and he's an up and coming kid...
This is the first time he comes out and gives so much details about Jones' addition to Jackson Team.
Before, it was just the usual: "we were asked by Jackson if we want Jones as our teammante and we decided to let him join the team."

And now comes my absolute favorite part.
Especially the red part.
IT'S PRECIOUS:

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...he'll never fight you or never challenge you or nothing like that. There's nothing you need to worry about. He brought him onto the team with that intro."
BRILLIANT Rashad!...Brilliant!

That answers a lot of questions about his frustrations...
Making more and more fans, right Suga?!

PS: And you "owe" me a response to one of my posts, after i responded to yours
HERE

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The blue text. It's one week old, nothing new. Has been discussed here last Thursday and Friday.

Don't really know why you made another thread about this subject when there are 2 already. But i will like to thank you for posting this, especially the first part: Rashad's comments. It's something new, at least for me.



This is the first time he comes out and gives so much details about Jones' addition to Jackson Team.
Before, it was just the usual: "we were asked by Jackson if we want Jones as our teammante and we decided to let him join the team."

And now comes my absolute favorite part.
Especially the red part.
IT'S PRECIOUS:



BRILLIANT Rashad!...Brilliant!

That answers a lot of questions about his frustrations...
Making more and more fans, right Suga?!

PS: And you "owe" me a response to one of my posts, after i responded to yours
HERE

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because there was stuff that was new. So the art5icle put it together well and i thought it was worthy of a new thread. If i posted it in the other one, chances are it would have just got lost within the posts. I think people should know the WHOLE quotes and not just bits and pieces.

New Article.. New Thread. If the other thread was mine then i could just keep updating it. But that isnt the case.
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because there was stuff that was new. So the art5icle put it together well and i thought it was worthy of a new thread. If i posted it in the other one, chances are it would have just got lost within the posts. I think people should know the WHOLE quotes and not just bits and pieces.

New Article.. New Thread. If the other thread was mine then i could just keep updating it. But that isnt the case.
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Don't really know why you made another thread about this subject when there are 2 already. But i will like to thank you for posting this, especially the first part: Rashad's comments. It's something new, at least for me.
PS: you still owe me a response....
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I don't think Sideways is a Jones hater though and this is the first thread he's made with a negative comment about him in the OP, if I remember correctly.



Jones is arrogant (NO, not all fighters are arrogant or cocky that is no goddamn excuse) and Rashad is a drama queen, period.
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I had nothing against Rashad, but doing this while Jones is about to fight for the title, not cool at all.
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So it is pretty much confirmed that it is Jackson that has the policy where teammates don't fight. It has nothing to do with friendship. It has to do with money. If teammates are going to fight...especially high profile fighters one is going to leave the camp. This results in less money for Jackson and company.

I agree with White when he says that MMA is not a team sport. And friends can fight each other, it has been done many times before. And more often than not they make the best and most entertaining fights. You either want the title or not.
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