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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-17-2011, 11:32 PM Thread Starter
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Lyoto Machida picks “Shogun” Rua to beat Jon Jones at UFC 128

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There is a large number of MMA fans and pundits picking Jon “Bones” Jones (12-1) to defeat UFC light heavyweight champion Mauricio “Shogun” Rua (19-4) in their upcoming UFC 128 title fight on March 19.

Many believe the ease in which the 23-year-old Jones has handled recent opponents such as Brandon Vera, Vladimir Matyushenko, and most recently, Ryan Bader, proves he is not only deserving of a title shot, but he will be too much for “Shogun”.

Even the odds-makers have Jones the favorite at -225 and Rua at +185.

There is one person who is not riding the Jon Jones hype train all the way to the title though, and that is former light heavyweight champ Lyoto Machida (16-2), the last person to defeat Rua.

Rua took Machida’s title with a first round knockout in May of last year at UFC 113. Just six months earlier Machida had gone five full rounds with Rua, winning a highly controversial unanimous decision.

He has stood across the cage and battled “Shogun” Rua toe-to-toe for nearly 30-minutes total, and he is not convinced the young superstar Jones is ready for this level, not yet.

Machida explained during an interview with Tatame:

“When you enter the cage, specially against a guy like Jones, of course he can win, but I believe Shogun is more prepared and plays harder. Technically, he’s more complete than Jon Jones. He has a good ground game, he’s a good striker, he knows everything. Everybody’s looking at Jon Jones’ side, who’s a young guy, but I don’t agree. He just seems to have an advantage because of his conditioning. Shogun is also young and has conditions to do a great fight. Shogun is more likely to win then Jon Jones.”

Machida believes Jones may have better conditioning than “Shogun” but feels “Shogun” is technically the more complete fighter. Both of those statements are probably true.

He also reminds us that “Shogun” has a good ground game, and that is true. He is a BJJ black belt and could be a danger off his back. The only thing is, he has only ever submitted one person, and that was Kevin Randleman via kneebar back in 2006.

So, what do you think, is “Shogun” really more likely to win, as Machida believes, or is Jon Jones going to run through the champion like he has everyone else lately? Or will Jones truly get tested by the leg kicks and Muay Thai of “Shogun, or maybe even submitted”?
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-18-2011, 10:13 AM
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okay, did anyone really expect anything else? Brazilians always stick together and when a fighter gets his ass handed to him, he usually picks that guy.
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I think deep down Lyoto wants that rematch against Shogun and he really wants to inflict some pain on him.

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I think deep down Lyoto wants that rematch against Shogun and he really wants to inflict some pain on him.

This.

They all do stick together but everyone wants the rematch the guy that beat them. but honestly its more likely to happen if Shogun loses. Wheter he beats randy or not if shogun loses its him and Lyoto for part 3.
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If a one armed,one legged,one eyed Brazilian man fought brock lesnar. Brazilian fighters would still pick the cripple to win.

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I think you would be hard stretched to find any Brazilian in the UFC thats not going to say that they think Shogun is going to win this fight, one thing about the Brazilian fighters is that they always back support up for there own country men, Maia and A.Silva could be about the only exception in MMA to that rule.


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I agree with all of the above. If a Brazilian is fighting you pretty much can't take another Brazilian's opinion seriously. They always pick their own whether or not it makes sense.
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This.

They all do stick together but everyone wants the rematch the guy that beat them. but honestly its more likely to happen if Shogun loses. Wheter he beats randy or not if shogun loses its him and Lyoto for part 3.
Why would they wanna set up a fight that shogun won twice?

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If a one armed,one legged,one eyed Brazilian man fought brock lesnar. Brazilian fighters would still pick the cripple to win.
did that not happen once already in WWE?


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did that not happen once already in WWE?
No, no, no. Do you really think they would go that far? They have more class than that... The guy had both eyes

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