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post #21 of 32 (permalink) Old 03-20-2011, 07:11 AM
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Must admit it was scary seeing Jones handle somebody Mauricio Rua there, but lets not get too carried away.

LMAO @ 'after he destroys Rashad. Not gonna happen, son. Just not gonna happen. Rashad will challenge JBJ in ways he has never been challenged before, and for those who think that Rashad won't at least be a threat..get with the programme because y'all will be extremely disappointed when Rashad's pushing this guy in different ways.

I'm more pumped than ever for Rashad to knocked this kid out. I felt for Shogun, he got bullied, but I think this is one of those situations where I don't mind giving some of you lot a taste of your own medicine...Shogun had a long layoff with knee issues and such, lol. JBJ probably fought the Shogun who fought Mark Coleman in their 2nd fight.
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After Bones fights (and destroy's Rashad), it has to be "Bones vs Silva". Forget GSP, as that fight no longer makes sense. Silva vs Bones is the fight that must now happen. There is no one left for Bones in light heavy and he is not ready to go heavy weight, yet. This is the fight of the century.
LOL. That post has so much fail in it that it hurts. After Jones's first defense it's going to be fight of the century. How does the GSP fight not make any sense anymore? GSP and AS have both cleared out their divisions in a dominant fashion, this fight makes all the sense in the world. And how can you say that Bones doesn't have anybody left anymore, he has the whole top 10 for crying out loud.

I know that Jones was impressive last night but let's not get overwhelmed here.

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I feel Machida can answer the threat of JBJ.

I would like to see a rematch of Shogun after he gets a couple of fights and gets his rythm back. Either Shogun looked a tad bit slow/off or JBJ was just that quick reflex wise.

JBJ needs to defend at least once or twice to be mentioned in the same sentence as "The Spider." The latter along with Shogun have been fighting for over two decades combined and have won scores of championships. Anderson holding the all time number of defenses in his respective weight category venturing up to MW and to LHW. JBJ would have to duplicate that and move up to HW.

The thing that gets me is that there's not much time left before Anderson retires. It should happen by 2012.

A lot can happen during that time.
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Jones needs to clean the division before we can see a superfight against spider.

before the superfight, id like to see jones beat

-rashad
-rampage (if he beats hammill)
-forrest (if he beats his next opponent)
-machida (once/if he gets past randy + another couple of wins to restablish him self as a no.1 contendor since he has lost 2 in a row)
-phil Davis (if he continues his winning ways)

once/if he beats all these men then we can see a superfight Vs andy, or he should move up to heavy weight, no doubt by then he will be bigger and stronger. which is all the more scary!
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"Ridiculous?...so, apparently, was the idea of Jones beating Shogun. So, tell me, who in light heavy is going to give Jones a challenge?

Rampage?
Machida?
Rashad?
Forrest?
Bisping?
Franklin?
Belfort?
Couture?"

NOBODY! I think Rashad will be his toughest fight but he will prevail. He will take Machida down at will and destroy him with his elbows.
In addition to Jones's freakish bodily assets the big one in his corner is Jackson. His coach/trainer will establish game plans to destroy everyone on the list above using Jones attributes. At 23 he is only going to get better and better and better.
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Well...lots of hate mail today.

To answer a few things:

GSP no longer makes sense as there is now a legit opponent for Silva. I am not a GSP nut hugger, but I am a fan. I just think Silva would easily beat him.

Rashad challenging Jones? That made me laugh. I haven't re-read the post, but I hope that was a joke. Rashad has wrestling and a looping right hand. Jones has soooo many more tools that he will clown Rashad and KHTFO. I guarantee it.

Jones is now the class of the division (and I am a big Machida fan). The fights available to him in LHW are boring and he will want to challenge himself and go to HW. He has already said as much so this shouldn't come as a shock.

Silva needs a big money opponent. As someone else pointed out, why feed GSP to him and damage GSPs marketability. It was also noted that Silva is now 36 and will not be in the game much longer. Bones "is" the best/only opponent for Silva after he beats Chael in the rematch. If someone else exists, please name him.

I really don't want to sit through a year of (and I won't) Bones v Forrest or Bones vs Bisping. I'll only watch the Rashad fight to watch Rashad get pummeled. Maybe they can feed Couture to him, too (if the judging is rigged and Couture somehow managers to pull a Vera against Machida).
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"All the other fighters who got to fight Silva deserved it more than Jones?" - I don't really understand this comment. What guys are you referring to? And whatever guys you are referring to, they fought Anderson before Jon Jones defeated Shogun...or Ryan Bader for that matter. So either way this comment is silly.

I never said that there is someone left to fight Anderson at middleweight. Never said that and I am in full agreement with that.

You act as if you picked a needle out of a haystack by picking Jones to beat Shogun. If I had to bet anything I'd say the predictions were pretty much split that slightly leaned towards Jones. Not to mention Jones was the favorite on paper to win this fight. "Look what happened tonight." I saw what happened. An out of shape, fat Shogun appeared and Bones Jones took advantage of it. Still impressive though either way.

Jones isn't staying light heavy for long? He hasn't been a champion for more than 24 hours.

You can stand by what you want...the fact still remains anyone who thinks Jon Jones deserves a super fight with the best fighter in the world after defending his title once...to which he hasn't defended yet (don't you love broken record syndrome?) is ridiculous. To take a note from you, please...fill me in, or atleast attempt to convince me why this fight should happen.
Travis Lutter, James Irvin, Patrick Cote and Thales Leites are four fighters that come to mind who did not deserve to fight against Anderson. Can you honestly say that their pedigrees make the Bones idea "ridiculous"? What did any of those fighters accomplish that even comes remotely close to what Jones has done? Now, perhaps you can convince me why the aforementioned fighters fighting Anderson makes more sense than a fight with Jones.

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Well...lots of hate mail today.

To answer a few things:

GSP no longer makes sense as there is now a legit opponent for Silva. I am not a GSP nut hugger, but I am a fan. I just think Silva would easily beat him.

Rashad challenging Jones? That made me laugh. I haven't re-read the post, but I hope that was a joke. Rashad has wrestling and a looping right hand. Jones has soooo many more tools that he will clown Rashad and KHTFO. I guarantee it.

Jones is now the class of the division (and I am a big Machida fan). The fights available to him in LHW are boring and he will want to challenge himself and go to HW. He has already said as much so this shouldn't come as a shock.

Silva needs a big money opponent. As someone else pointed out, why feed GSP to him and damage GSPs marketability. It was also noted that Silva is now 36 and will not be in the game much longer. Bones "is" the best/only opponent for Silva after he beats Chael in the rematch. If someone else exists, please name him.

I really don't want to sit through a year of (and I won't) Bones v Forrest or Bones vs Bisping. I'll only watch the Rashad fight to watch Rashad get pummeled. Maybe they can feed Couture to him, too (if the judging is rigged and Couture somehow managers to pull a Vera against Machida).

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Yes, boring...don't need to see the majority of those matches. And, if he isn't the class of the division, then who is?
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Stylistically Jones was always a very bad opponents for Shogun, as fcuked up as it sounds, I would quite like to see Jones vs Rampage at some point and Machida, because I just think they would at least bring new threats to test him that stylistically he still has not been tested against.

A side from that I give 2 years max until he is in the HW division a guy his size really belongs there.

As for the Prospect of Jones vs Anderson very little appeal to me is just a mis match for some many reasons, its like saying Silva should step up and fight Cain.

Now I think about it, I hope Shogun can make 185lb and move down to fight Silva for the title.


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