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post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-31-2011, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyCooper View Post
I don't know, I like to see him fight and he is one of the best in the world on top of that.

Considering that over 50% of all Zuffa fighters are juiceing.. acquits him in my opinion, just like Chael. 6 months layoff and a fine should be enough punishment.
It wouldnít surprise be if the numbers were higher but itís all speculation as we really donít have any way of knowing for sure. The only data we have to go off is the fighters who actually get caught.

Fighters who have access to good medical staff or a personal physician can take PEDs and never get caught. If you cycle correctly and use the right drugs/masking agents you wonít get caught (unless you take something right before testing).

PEDs can allow an athlete to train harder and recover faster, gain strength and lean muscle mass and with fame and money as the reward what do people expect.

Itís in all high level sports, it will always be around.

People are kidding themselves if they believe the only cheaters are the ones who get caught.
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post #12 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-31-2011, 06:54 PM
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Boot him from the UFC.

Cheaters have no place, under any circumstances, in any professional sport.
Whoa, whoa, whoa wait a second here. Are you saying that any fighter that takes a drug that is on the banned substances list by the Nevada State Athletic Commission should be dropped from the UFC?

Labeling someone a cheater because they took a banned substance is a lot different than someone who is using a performance enhancing drug.

Smoking marijuana ala Nick Diaz is not a performance enhancing drug. If anything, THC in weed slows ones reaction time and would thus hinder a fighter's ability to fight.

I realize Thiago Silva was not smoking weed, but I'm using the Diaz example to show my point that there is a big difference between performance enhancing and banned substances.

At this point in time we do not yet know what the banned substance is.

Furthermore, I do agree that performance enhancing drugs should not be allowed in the UFC and fighters who choose to use them should be punished accordingly. However, labeling someone as a cheater just for using a banned substance is not justified. They broke the rules yes, but what advantage do you really gain from some substances.

We need to know the exact substance before we can continue this debate in my opinion.

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a 2 year ban seems fair to me, with random tests in between(if he is still under contract), because roids have long term effects too which can still give you a clear advantage.

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You don't cheat. Period. If you can't fight or you're injured you call off the fight and reschedule another.

I love how he reminds us in his apology that no matter his excuse he was still in the wrong and yet still feels the need to give us a reason as to why he cheated. It's like "hey I KNOW I'm totally wrong and don't deserve any sympathy, and with that said here's why it was hard for me not to cheat."
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post #15 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-01-2011, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan1522 View Post

I realize Thiago Silva was not smoking weed, but I'm using the Diaz example to show my point that there is a big difference between performance enhancing and banned substances.
Weed is different from every other drug out there, so why even bring it up?

And why aren't you asking what drug he did take? Why didn't he tell in this ridiculous admit-after-the-fact letter?

He injected shit into his back. Enough said.
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