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post #11 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-31-2011, 11:28 PM
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I think a OT system can work for 3 rounds but would be hard to sell for a championship fight.
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I'd rather have more draws than those crappy robbery decisions which happen way more often than draws.

If it's really a close fight it's a close fight and you could consider it a draw. Those fighters that want a win on their record should go for the finish, then there is no doubt.
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At least give an OT round for regular fights. As for championship bouts, I wouldnt mind seeing a rematch and that's an extremely rare scenario anyways.
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The solution is sat right in front of them, use the TUF system. Non-Title fights are 2 rounds, if they draw then a decision must be made from the 3rd round. Title fights same, 4 rounds, if a draw then go to fifth.

This inspires aggression and takes away judging inconsistencies. If it goes to the final round, fighters will be thinking 'shit I might be down on the cards' and they will try for the finish. And with the judges, if the fight rounds are of even numbers (2 and 4) instead of uneven numbers (3 and 5), they won't get away with bad decisions so easily, because if it's pretty close, they know everyone will be wanting the deciding round. If it doesn't go to deciding round, the points winner should be quite clear - less rounds to score = less complications, points winner will be obvious.

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I think the important element of this is

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But is there any way this actually has a chance at being implemented? Would commissions honestly allow a five-round war to go to a sixth sudden death style round, just for the sake of clarity?
Currently, it is completely disallowed for a fighter to fight more than 25 minutes in a fight. They would have to amend the Unified Rules and get all the major commissions (at least NJ and NV) behind it for it to work.

I am for this idea (at least, I like to see fight finished in a definite manner) but it's not as simple as just getting Dana to agree. It took Zuffa a lot of work and a lot of money to get even the current rules implemented among the many commissions.

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What I think they should do is if it goes to a draw, they have an overtime round, as it says above, and whoever has the most offense in that round is the winner of the fight.
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They do it in K1 I don't see why not MMA.
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The solution is sat right in front of them, use the TUF system. Non-Title fights are 2 rounds, if they draw then a decision must be made from the 3rd round. Title fights same, 4 rounds, if a draw then go to fifth.

This inspires aggression and takes away judging inconsistencies. If it goes to the final round, fighters will be thinking 'shit I might be down on the cards' and they will try for the finish. And with the judges, if the fight rounds are of even numbers (2 and 4) instead of uneven numbers (3 and 5), they won't get away with bad decisions so easily, because if it's pretty close, they know everyone will be wanting the deciding round. If it doesn't go to deciding round, the points winner should be quite clear - less rounds to score = less complications, points winner will be obvious.
That is an EXCELLENT idea. Fights would be more fast paced and everything. Thnak you.
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The solution is sat right in front of them, use the TUF system. Non-Title fights are 2 rounds, if they draw then a decision must be made from the 3rd round. Title fights same, 4 rounds, if a draw then go to fifth.

This inspires aggression and takes away judging inconsistencies. If it goes to the final round, fighters will be thinking 'shit I might be down on the cards' and they will try for the finish. And with the judges, if the fight rounds are of even numbers (2 and 4) instead of uneven numbers (3 and 5), they won't get away with bad decisions so easily, because if it's pretty close, they know everyone will be wanting the deciding round. If it doesn't go to deciding round, the points winner should be quite clear - less rounds to score = less complications, points winner will be obvious.
2 & 4?!
No good imo. Here's why:

1. I understand your point: the fighters having less time to make an impression and this way they are encouraged to be more aggressive and to finish the fight. But even in this system: if a fighter wins the 1st rd and in the 2nd he gets a TD and lays on his opponent, that fight is pretty much over.

TUF has shown us too many examples of boring fights, when one fighter just mimicked a blanket in the 2nd rd, because he knew he was leading on points. Inf act, the first fight of this season's show is a very good example of that.

And using this logic - let's make the fights 1 rd fights! This way we will have a clear winner, no doubt!

The 3 & 5 system is pretty good actually, it's just that from time to time some retards manage to f**k everything up, because they can't score 5 minutes of fighting.

PLus, we have so many examples of fights that were 20-18 for a certain fighter after 2 rds and in the 3rd round the other fighter got the T/KO or the sub, something that woudn't have happened in a 2 rds fight system.

2. Something else: don't forget the sponsorhip aspect of today's MMA.
The UFC gets a lot of money from big sponsors who want their name to appear on TV for as long as possible.
If you cut 1 rd from a 3 rds fight, that means the sponsors could pottentially lose 33% of exposure.
And on a title fight - 20%.
I don't think they would enjoy that.

3. And, last but not least, maybe the most important aspect imo: PPVs - the UFC/MMA in general, just won a lot of new fans in the last years, by offering them good fights. Goof vavlue for the money.

I don't believe the fans would appreciate paying the same ammount of money for a PPV and getting less action.
That could lead to a drop in PPVs ---> less incomes ---> Dana hates that.

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I'd rather have more draws than those crappy robbery decisions which happen way more often than draws.

If it's really a close fight it's a close fight and you could consider it a draw. Those fighters that want a win on their record should go for the finish, then there is no doubt.
Though, two other big main events of this year would be draws as well.

Did Rampage really beat Lyoto? - Basically a tie.

Did Sanchez really beat Kampman? - Who won the 2nd round, looked like a tie.
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