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Kenny Florian expects to win 145-pound title, go back to 155 within a few fights

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#3 ·
Well, good luck to him. He's one of the more respectable guys in MMA, so I wish him the best of luck in his new challenge at 145. I don't think he should just disregard Aldo, he's one of the best P4P fighters in the world, and although Florian will have the height advantage, I don't think that will stop the stinging striking assault he'll face from Aldo. And then there's the fact that he chokes in big fights.
 
#4 ·
I don't think he'll pack enough power to KO Aldo. Aldo is lightening fast, very explosive, with powerful strikes.

Very interesting match up though. Aldo vs Edgar is where it's at.
 
#5 ·
So he thinks he is going to drop to 145, get the belt...then return to 155? Why the confidence? He wants to get his ass kicked at 155 again? Why?

I used to like the guy, but KenFlo has been overrated and is waaay too cocky here. What strikers or BJJ artists has he faced lately? The amazing crouching Gomi who was out struck by Guida? Guida himself? Perhaps he thinks Joe Daddy is some amazing opponent.

He is right, the 145 division is weak, but Aldo has destroyed them all...what else is he supposed to do? Aldo will outstrike him, and Kenny holds no BJJ advantage here. Only thing he can rely on in that fight is experience and being the bigger man. Who knows how Kenny will look at 145 though, lets not all assume he will have the same gas tank as he did at 155.

Pretty cocky for a choke artist. Aldo would/will destroy him...then he has no where to go.
 
#6 ·
All you guys laughing might have an egg on your face after the fight.

Kenny has a 4 inch reach advantage and has competed at MW , im not saying he will win but by far this will be Aldo's toughest fight if they get to go head to head and he will be very powerful at 145.
 
#8 ·
You guys have something way confused. Cutting a weight class doesn't add power to you. Kenny is going to have ZERO strength when he faces Aldo, who will be as explosively powerful as ever.



Plus who knows if he'll even get past Nunes. Can't believe that fight is still so far away.
 
#11 ·
You guys have something way confused. Cutting a weight class doesn't add power to you. Kenny is going to have ZERO strength when he faces Aldo, who will be as explosively powerful as ever.



Plus who knows if he'll even get past Nunes. Can't believe that fight is still so far away.
that's y I dont really understand when ppl discredit AS for walkin at 230lbs but competing at 185.Dude aint usin wrestling to beat opponents hes using striking.Due to the massive cut that has to be zappin alot of his strength yet ppl want to act like hes cheating the system


mind boggling
 
#12 ·
I am a kenny fan, but I hope he is doing the right thing for himself. I have a mental image of him looking like a mini-Skeletor at 145. The guy was on TUF as a middle-weight. He was obviously never a middle-weight, but when was the last time we ever heard of a guy dropping 3 weight classes?
 
#13 ·
That's a tough one to call. First he's got to get by a pretty dangerous Nunes, that'll be a good test for that weight class.

KenFlo has talent and a very good resume of fighters he's beaten. Gomi, Guida, Lauzon, Stout, Stevenson, Huerta..

These guys aren't slouches but Aldo is a better striker than all of them. It'll be a good fight, I won't count him out but I don't see him getting the belt with ease.
 
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I think the big mystery factor here, is how such a dominant Muay Thai fighter, deals with Florian who now has a pretty good jab! It is going to be quick, rangy and pop out there and really mess up Aldos rythem along with help Kenny set up other moves off of it.

I actually give Kenny a chance of winning this one and if Aldo walks straight through him like he is doing to all the current FWs, then all props to him!
 
#17 ·
I don't even think Kenny will beat Nunes and he's already thinking of the title? I think he's going to realize very fast that he's got no strength or speed advantage in this division and move back to 155. His problem isn't his weight class, he just choked against Maynard. He was losing to BJ, but he wasn't at all out of that fight until he got choked out. It seems his actual problems revolve around choking. :confused02:
 
#18 ·
Typical smug Kenny shit right there. Can he win? Possibly.

But, to say he'll grab the belt and move back up, as if the existing FW's are worth nothing? What a knob.

I've never liked Florian. He has an ego that is far in excess of actual ability. Fair enough, all fighters are like this to a degree... but Florian is up there with Mir for the title of smugest twat in the UFC.

@hammerlock
I dont think his problem is choking. He's simply found his level. A top 5 LW, who doest have the tools to go any further. He didnt choke... he got beat. Plain and simple.
 
#19 ·
Kenny will take this fight.

I don't find Aldo worthy of even 20% of the hype he is getting. The guy has literally taken a 1 handed Faber to a decision, knocked out Manny (who hasn't? Rob Emerson knocked him out in 12 seconds), and defeated Brown. You know who else defeated Brown? Manny, who knocked him out in the first round.

Literally, that's it, that's his entire career. It's not that impressive, in fact, it's the single weakest, unimpressive resume of any champion the UFC has.

Kenny will defeat him.
 
#20 ·
You may very well be right Carson. Still makes him a bit of a twat for saying this stuff out loud.

He may as well have worded it "Oh, ill just pop in at 145, and dabble with those fools for a bit. Then, once Ive pwned them, I'll just jump back up to 155 where the serious business is." ... at least that would have been mildly amusing.

Ahhh... who am I kidding. I dont like Florin no matter what he says! Its his head, you see. FAR too big.... literally.
 
#21 ·
Let's say there is no Aldo in the FW division.

But as long as there is a guy named Chad Mendes in the FW division, Kenny won't win any titles.

Kenny sucks against wrestlers and Mendes would be the same story as Maynard.

Kenny should focus on his next fight and forget about moving up to LW again, when he hasn't even fought at FW...
 
#22 ·
Why a guy as lean as Kenny would drop another weight division is beyond me. Dropping in weight classes is for guys who have muscle mass to spare, not guys who need to donate bone marrow to do it.

I won't hate on him since I don't really know how this is going to work out, but I honestly see him getting bullied around by wrestlers at 145, all the same.
 
#27 ·
That only proves my point that Aldo's hype is absolutely ridiculous.

Aldo beats Kenny 10/10? Aldo hasn't even beaten anyone comparable to a top 10 LW, and he can already beat someone who has defeated and fought fighters more skilled than himself 10/10 times?

My point is easily proven just by your post.
 
#28 ·
Like i've said - i just feel like this. I have a feeling and i'm gonna trust it until proven wrong. Maybe it's hype, maybe it's not, but we will find out in the coming months/years.

But at the same time, the way you are talking about Kenny sounds like a hype also. :)
I'm talking about the 145 lbs Kenny Florian - the one that has zero fights at FW, not the LW Kenny.
He is a great fighter, no doubt. But we have ZERO information on how he will perform at this weight class.

I think we should talk more after his first official 145 lbs weigh-in.



But when i think of the 155 weigh in Kenny, i don't kno what to say...
 
#31 · (Edited)
Kenny expects to do a lot of things, but usually, he ends up DOING shit.

If he beats Nunes, I'd be surprised. Nunes is the more powerful grappler of the two, and the much better striker.

Against Jose Aldo, Aldo can win by whatever he wants. He could probably just take Kenny down at will if he wanted to, since that seems to be the 100% fool proof way of beating him.
 
#78 ·
If he beats Nunes, I'd be surprised. Nunes is the more powerful grappler of the two, and the much better striker.

Against Jose Aldo, Aldo can win by whatever he wants. He could probably just take Kenny down at will if he wanted to, since that seems to be the 100% fool proof way of beating him.
I would not be shocked to see kenflo get beat by Nunes but I still think he should be favored over him.
 
#35 ·
...I'm a Kenny fan as well but Aldo's speed is blistering. If Florian can adjust to the weight cut, prepare for the speed of FW's, dominates a fight or two at 145, then Aldo could have a big challenge. Kenny will be the bigger, stronger fighter but that proves very little ala: B.J. & Edgar fights. Frankie's superior footwork, cardio & speed was a puzzle Penn couldn't solve...
 
#37 ·
I doubt it.

Kenny is extremely weak physically. He has almost zero upper body strength. This is why he failed miserably at even coming close to taking BJ down and BJ slammed him with ease.

Aldo literally could just dump Kenny down and either stop him with ground and pound, sub him or just win on points.

He'd beat him on the feet before either of those things though.
 
#38 · (Edited)
I don't understand the logic behind comparing the FW division to other divisions and come out with this idea that the people in FW suck compared to the people in other divisions; therefore, Kenny will have a chance because he survived against better competition at LW. How can divisions be truly compared anyway when none of the fighters in another division fight each other? What does the talent level matter in LW has anything to do with the talent level in FW? Let a LW move down to fight a FW and we compare them there or vice versa. That is the only way a comparison makes sense. The only real difference between the new UFC divisions and the long time existing ones is the Zuffa hype behind their UFC fighters. It does not take MMA math to figure out Aldo is in another class than Kenny especially when Kenny is fighting in Aldo's weight class.
 
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