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post #51 of 60 (permalink) Old 04-05-2011, 08:04 PM
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Whatever gameplan GSP is working on will be the method he will win the fight, whether its jab for 5 rounds or side control lay and pray. Shields may be on a winning streak, but going back to Miller he has looked rather unimpressive IMO. For my own version, I believe that GSP keeps this fight standing and wins a UD.

So Machida loses the rematch with Shogun and than "loses" to Rampage and all of a sudden it seems like people forgot that he has serious skills and power. Captain America will get KO in the first round, maybe the second but a KO all the same.

Bocek vs. Henderson is my favorite match up of this card as poited out early with BJJ skills versus the unsubmittable. As much as I like Henderson I think Bocek earns a SD in this bout.

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machida will win via ko or ud.

lets just hope this fight wudnt turn like the vera vs couture

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Whatever gameplan GSP is working on will be the method he will win the fight, whether its jab for 5 rounds or side control lay and pray. Shields may be on a winning streak, but going back to Miller he has looked rather unimpressive IMO. For my own version, I believe that GSP keeps this fight standing and wins a UD.

So Machida loses the rematch with Shogun and than "loses" to Rampage and all of a sudden it seems like people forgot that he has serious skills and power. Captain America will get KO in the first round, maybe the second but a KO all the same.

Bocek vs. Henderson is my favorite match up of this card as poited out early with BJJ skills versus the unsubmittable. As much as I like Henderson I think Bocek earns a SD in this bout.
C'mon Machida has "power", he had it for a year but before that he was viewed as a pillow handed point scorer. If anyone upsets that night it will be Couture. We don't really know what Machida we're going to get for this fight and he has only fought free-style wrestlers never greco-roman. This fight is going to be won or loss based on two factors, Machida's core strength or Couture's chin.

This one is a real toss up for me, I'm going to my money on Machida but my head says Couture.

Aldo via decision and GSP via TKO or technical submission, I think he gets Jake to the ground and just hits him in the face enough times the refs stop the fight.
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Whatever gameplan GSP is working on will be the method he will win the fight, whether its jab for 5 rounds or side control lay and pray. Shields may be on a winning streak, but going back to Miller he has looked rather unimpressive IMO. For my own version, I believe that GSP keeps this fight standing and wins a UD.

So Machida loses the rematch with Shogun and than "loses" to Rampage and all of a sudden it seems like people forgot that he has serious skills and power. Captain America will get KO in the first round, maybe the second but a KO all the same.

Bocek vs. Henderson is my favorite match up of this card as poited out early with BJJ skills versus the unsubmittable. As much as I like Henderson I think Bocek earns a SD in this bout.
People forget way tooooo fast.. Typical MMA "Fans"

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C'mon Machida has "power", he had it for a year but before that he was viewed as a pillow handed point scorer. If anyone upsets that night it will be Couture. We don't really know what Machida we're going to get for this fight and he has only fought free-style wrestlers never greco-roman. This fight is going to be won or loss based on two factors, Machida's core strength or Couture's chin.

This one is a real toss up for me, I'm going to my money on Machida but my head says Couture.
Thats not true John.

Don't you see the difference between the Machida from 2 years ago to the one from today? Machida has serious, serious Knock Out Power these days. Just look at him these days. He spend an awful a lot of time in the weight room getting strenght and power into his punches. Just take a look at him today. I don't even like it actually..

He was able to rock Rampage with his straight left. I mean who ever rocks Rampage like that?? I haven't seen that in a long time!

Machida has immense Power these days!

Also it's much easier for somebody like Lyoto to defend against a Greco guy then for example a Freestyle Wrestler or Judoka.

Greco guys try to trag you down after they got you against the cage.. the little mistake people make here is, that LYoto is one of THE best fighters in the clinch in all of MMA. Couture won't ever get him too the ground!


Also it's not about Coutures chin either. Couture's most vulnerable aspect these days is his weak body. Lyoto will try to attack the body much more. In everyone of his recent fights Couture went down because of body kicks and knees (Lyoto's speciality). Not saying that his chin isn't the one of a 50 year old man either.
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GSP by UD, Couture by SD/UD, Henderson UD.

Pretty vanilla outcomes for the most part IMO. Shields and Bocek will be competitive but the favorites are favorites for a reason here.

As far as Machida goes, I'm taking the upset. Machida just doesn't look like the same guy that won the belt, and old man Couture specializes in smelling out the vulnerabilities of champs on the downslide and winning as the underdog.
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Thats not true John.

Don't you see the difference between the Machida from 2 years ago to the one from today? Machida has serious, serious Knock Out Power these days. Just look at him these days. He spend an awful a lot of time in the weight room getting strenght and power into his punches. Just take a look at him today. I don't even like it actually..

He was able to rock Rampage with his straight left. I mean who ever rocks Rampage like that?? I haven't seen that in a long time!

Machida has immense Power these days!

Also it's much easier for somebody like Lyoto to defend against a Greco guy then for example a Freestyle Wrestler or Judoka.

Greco guys try to trag you down after they got you against the cage.. the little mistake people make here is, that LYoto is one of THE best fighters in the clinch in all of MMA. Couture won't ever get him too the ground!


Also it's not about Coutures chin either. Couture's most vulnerable aspect these days is his weak body. Lyoto will try to attack the body much more. In everyone of his recent fights Couture went down because of body kicks and knees (Lyoto's speciality). Not saying that his chin isn't the one of a 50 year old man either.
I don't know if I agree with to much of that, I rewatched some of his fights (his KO's in particular) and he seems like he's going to be very vulnerable to getting muscled down or held up on the cage again. I think Randy took this fight because he sees the opportunity to take out another top ten guy and Machida was the easiest pick for him.

In his three KO's he was able to get a low position on Franklin, Silva, and Evans and really was able to overwhelm them. I don't think he's going to get that sort of drop on Randy. Couture can tie you up and keep you up against the cage with his upper body strength, he doesn't need the double leg. Machida seems to need to be stronger than his opponents and push them off and do damage. He hurts guys on the transitions, from clinch to stand up. I worry that Randy's power can overwhelm him, much in the same way Rampage's did.

I'm likely just over thinking this, and it will be like Penn/Hughes again. But I have some real worries that Randy's going to do it yet again and outsmart us all, and worm his way into another title shot.
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GSP by UD, Couture by SD/UD, Henderson UD.
These would be my picks also.

I could see GSP getting a finish in the 4th or 5th round also.
I honestly see that fight like GSP vs Koscheck for the first 3 rounds. And after that it could turn into GSP vs Alves/BJ for the 4th/5th rd.

Henderson vs Bocek is a very close fight to call. Bocek shouldn't be underestimated at all. He is riding a 4-1 record,all wins coming by submission. And his only loss came against Jim Miller - a close UD. I think Henderson is more well rounded though and he will take this after a close fight.

As far as Couture vs Machida - i'm gonna go with the *old guy*. By SD. I believe he has the tools to frustrate Machida. He has to avoid getting KO'd before he can do that though. And i think the *old fox* has the tricks to do it.

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Just remember that Randy is almost 50 years old and is not the wrestler, nor the fighter he was 3-5 years ago.

The speed difference between him and Machida is going to be enormous. 1st round blitz for Machida.

GSP UD, but he will be put in some deep waters in this fight.

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The people who are saying Couture can beat Machida are of the same mindset that James Toney could have beaten Couture. It's damn near impossible. Randy is great, and he's one of my favorites, but the man is 50 years old. His speed, chin, and other facets of his game have deteriorated extremely. I would give him a fair chance against a mid-tier opponent, but this is Lyoto Machida. People give Machida a lot of criticism on these boards because of his abysmal 2010 campaign, but people don't understand how talented, powerful, and well-rounded this guy really is. He should have no issues with Randy in the slightest.

I also in no way see Jake Shields as a threat to GSP unless the fight hits the floor, which is where GSP is going to be avoiding this time. Shields has no power or explosion in his game, nevermind his standup. There's no way he will be able to threaten GSP on the feet, and no way he's getting it to the floor either. This should be a fairly easy victory for St. Pierre.
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GSP sub round 4 (i believe GSP will tire shields out to the point of exhaustion and then get the finish, finally)

Aldo KO round 2 (devastating fashion)

Lyoto UD (doesnt finish randy but randy cant keep up as much as i hate to say it)

Henderson TKO round 3 (brutal GNP)
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