Eduardo Alonso: "We hope to have Shogun back around august" - Page 8 - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
UFC The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is a U.S.-based mixed martial arts organization, recognized as the largest MMA promotion in the world. The UFC is headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada and is owned and operated by Zuffa, LLC. This promotion is responsible for solidifying the sport's postion in the history-books. UFC is currently undergoing a remarkable surge in popularity, along with greater mainstream media coverage. UFC programming can now be seen on FOX, FX, and FUEL TV in the United States, as well as in 35 other countries worldwide.

Reply

Old 04-07-2011, 01:36 PM   #71 (permalink)
Super Ultra Great Delicious Wonderful
 
osmium's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 6,517
osmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By Allosmium Is Beloved By All
With Bones he just needs more experience going deep into fights so he learns how to control emotions and keep his breathing proper and heart rate down. You can't really replicate that in practice. I don't care how many miles you run with a parachute on your back you will gas if you can't keep calm and control your emotions.
osmium is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 04-07-2011, 01:54 PM   #72 (permalink)
Super Heavyweight
 
AlphaDawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 4,015
AlphaDawg Is Beloved By AllAlphaDawg Is Beloved By AllAlphaDawg Is Beloved By AllAlphaDawg Is Beloved By AllAlphaDawg Is Beloved By AllAlphaDawg Is Beloved By AllAlphaDawg Is Beloved By AllAlphaDawg Is Beloved By AllAlphaDawg Is Beloved By AllAlphaDawg Is Beloved By AllAlphaDawg Is Beloved By All
Give him Brandon Vera. Would be an amazing muay thai battle and a dream fight for me.

On a more serious match up, I say give him Hamill after Rampage beats him.
AlphaDawg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2011, 04:22 PM   #73 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,811
BobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty corner
Quote:
Originally Posted by KryOnicle View Post


To have that hit within 5 seconds isn't a good start to say the least. To say 'he was exactly the same after the knee' is pointless due to the time the knee occurred. The knee did effect Shogun. He's said it himself. To not believe that is pretty silly.

That's not to say the knee is the FULL reason he lost. He obviously gassed later on in the round. Could 'Pride' Shogun of taken that knee and come back to win the fight? Maybe, who knows? But with the added effect of ring rust and another knee surgery, he couldn't.

I am not saying the knee gassed Shogun

Felt the need to bold the above
So can I ask you this? Why didn't Shogun quit mentally after eating that horrible knee strike right to the liver in the second Lyoto fight?? And in the first one as well and much much more?

Because, Shogun never quits mentally! Normally he is not human in there and I have NEVER EVER seen Shogun break mentally. To claim something like this shows that people are just grapping at straws. These arguments do not make sense anymore to me.

It really seems to me that people have never seen Shougn fight before in there life when they try to explain his loss. It's crazy to think this Kry.. absolutely out of this world.
BobbyCooper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2011, 07:47 PM   #74 (permalink)
Flyweight
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 271
neoseeker is a jewel in the roughneoseeker is a jewel in the roughneoseeker is a jewel in the roughneoseeker is a jewel in the roughneoseeker is a jewel in the roughneoseeker is a jewel in the roughneoseeker is a jewel in the roughneoseeker is a jewel in the roughneoseeker is a jewel in the roughneoseeker is a jewel in the roughneoseeker is a jewel in the rough
I'm a big Shogun fan but his strategy for the Jones fight was as wrong as the one for the Machida fight was right. He wasn't the same after that knee.
neoseeker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2011, 02:11 AM   #75 (permalink)

 
K R Y's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Wales, Boyo!
Posts: 10,253
K R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is Untouchable
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyCooper View Post
So can I ask you this? Why didn't Shogun quit mentally after eating that horrible knee strike right to the liver in the second Lyoto fight?? And in the first one as well and much much more?

Because, Shogun never quits mentally! Normally he is not human in there and I have NEVER EVER seen Shogun break mentally. To claim something like this shows that people are just grapping at straws. These arguments do not make sense anymore to me.

It really seems to me that people have never seen Shougn fight before in there life when they try to explain his loss. It's crazy to think this Kry.. absolutely out of this world.
... I didn't say it mentally broke him either. All I am saying is it played a part in his loss. Comparing the knee's he took from Lyoto and the one from Jones isn't going to work either. In both Lyoto fights he was undoubtedly in great condition, not coming off of a surgery and ring rust wasn't a factor. Nor did they connect within 5 seconds of the fight. Just because a fighter doesn't get knocked out by a huge left hook that lands flush in a fight, doesn't mean he can't be knocked out by a huge left in his next fight.

I am by no means saying Shogun is mentally weak, the fact he lasted till round three is proof he isn't.

The fact that Shogun himself says the knee played a part is enough for me. I am not saying the knee is the sole reason he lost the fight Bobby.

And I'm pretty sure I've seen Shogun fight before Bobby...Please don't use that arguement.
__________________





“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.”
K R Y is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2011, 05:45 AM   #76 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,811
BobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty corner
Quote:
Originally Posted by KryOnicle View Post
... I didn't say it mentally broke him either. All I am saying is it played a part in his loss. Comparing the knee's he took from Lyoto and the one from Jones isn't going to work either. In both Lyoto fights he was undoubtedly in great condition, not coming off of a surgery and ring rust wasn't a factor. Nor did they connect within 5 seconds of the fight. Just because a fighter doesn't get knocked out by a huge left hook that lands flush in a fight, doesn't mean he can't be knocked out by a huge left in his next fight.

I am by no means saying Shogun is mentally weak, the fact he lasted till round three is proof he isn't.

The fact that Shogun himself says the knee played a part is enough for me. I am not saying the knee is the sole reason he lost the fight Bobby.

And I'm pretty sure I've seen Shogun fight before Bobby...Please don't use that arguement.
So we do finally agree both that Shogun wasn't Shogun that night, which was all I said from day 1! That was all I wanted to hear from the people who know Shogun and I am sure you know him and his fights Kry, thanks!
BobbyCooper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2011, 06:13 AM   #77 (permalink)

 
K R Y's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Wales, Boyo!
Posts: 10,253
K R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is UntouchableK R Y Is Untouchable
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyCooper View Post
So we do finally agree both that Shogun wasn't Shogun that night, which was all I said from day 1! That was all I wanted to hear from the people who know Shogun and I am sure you know him and his fights Kry, thanks!
Yes. I never disputed that! I said before the knee surgery and ring rust played a part in it, and the knee he took added to that.

I think a 100% healthy Shogun vs Jones fight would be different. Do I think Shogun would win? Probably not but who knows, he'd do alot better however and it'd be a war.
__________________





“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.”
K R Y is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2011, 06:35 AM   #78 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,811
BobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty cornerBobbyCooper Is in the naughty corner
Quote:
Originally Posted by KryOnicle View Post
Yes. I never disputed that! I said before the knee surgery and ring rust played a part in it, and the knee he took added to that.

I think a 100% healthy Shogun vs Jones fight would be different. Do I think Shogun would win? Probably not but who knows, he'd do alot better however and it'd be a war.
Yep, would be a totally different fight and the fight we had all been waiting for. I believe Shogun would take it, but thats just hypothetical.
BobbyCooper is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
Powered by vBulletin Copyright © 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios