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Old 04-08-2011, 12:45 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Bisping is very good on the ground and on his back. His hip escapes are outstanding. Bisping will not be stuck on his back, not even by Sonnen.

Unfortunately I think Hardy and Bisping are not the closest friends!
Yeah shame they're not friends. He needs to get his ass to America more often then.
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Old 04-08-2011, 01:14 PM   #22 (permalink)
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The only great thing about Dan Hardy is that he has alot of heart, any man who refuses to tap when GSP has them in an arm bar, and then a wicked kimura, wins alot of points.
It is funny that there is a fighter named Tim Sylvia who would say that learning to tap is a more important lesson. I give Hardy all sorts of 'toughness' credit for not tapping, but eventually someone will land a sub right and not wait to see if he taps, and will break something. When he then has to sit out for close to a year he will learn.

Still I give him credit on the armbar for recognizing, while in pain, that GSP didn't have it in right. You could see him about to tap and then he realizes it and toughs it out. That was insane!
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:05 PM   #23 (permalink)
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It is funny that there is a fighter named Tim Sylvia who would say that learning to tap is a more important lesson. I give Hardy all sorts of 'toughness' credit for not tapping, but eventually someone will land a sub right and not wait to see if he taps, and will break something. When he then has to sit out for close to a year he will learn.

Still I give him credit on the armbar for recognizing, while in pain, that GSP didn't have it in right. You could see him about to tap and then he realizes it and toughs it out. That was insane!
I agree with you. Its not necesarily the right thing to do, not taping, Im just saying it must be noted that Dan isnt the type to panic in a tight situation. How many other fighters would have quit in that same instant.
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I understand that there are numerous idiots that like this guy, but come on, he doesn't belong in the UFC. While his stand up is his only strength, it's not all that impressive. This means that not being able to Wrestle, not even in the least bit at all, is only the most glaring reason why he doesn't belong. Even if he does manage to learn to sprawl, his hands aren't heavy enough to be a poor man's Chuck Liddell. So..., even with the sprawl, he'd still be lucky to go 50/50 in the current UFC. Really, the only reason the UFC touted him as some kind of superfighter is because he talks so much shit. If he is lucky, he'll become the Pissping of the Welterweight division, beating the less than stellar competition. The Rory Markham's and TJ Grant's, the cans, of the division, but never touching the top 3 or number 1 spot because he can't beat those guys.
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Old 04-09-2011, 02:18 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Hardy's standup isn't even that great. He has one KO in the UFC against Rory Markham, a win over a physically ill and immensely underweight and drained Mike Swick, and a bad decison win against Davis. I was impressed by the progress Hardy has seemed to make with his guard and jiu-jitsu, but his wrestling is horrible. It's almost non-existent. Like others have said, it's not like he expects the shot, as if he expects his opponent not to use wrestling when it's a major weakness of his.
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Old 04-10-2011, 01:23 PM   #26 (permalink)
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its obvious he doesnt belong in the ufc anymore..
but lets face it life is realy unfair
unfair realy to other fighters that had been cut
dan hardy is an example of a marketable fighter
dana wants him and i realy hate dana for doing that
Why? The UFC has what? Over a hundred fighters on their roster, or close to it? At any given point you're going to have exactly 7 champions, and maybe a collection of 21 top contenders to challenge them. Behind them maybe 30 young up and comers who could actually reach that level. So what that covers roughly half the roster in fights that might have title, or even just ranking implacations. That leaves a lot of room for guys that are their to be entertaining.

Look at guys like Chris Leben, or Chris Lytle. Every now and again these guys will put together a little win streak, and some talk of contender status will emerge... and then they will get knocked right off the hill, everytime! And this is coming from a big fan of the Crippler. BUT, every single match they are entertaining and competitive (minus Stann and Silva for Leben lol).

This is how I see Dan Hardy. As far as I'm concerned the guy can spend the rest of his career in the UFC and be a 500 fighter. If he keeps putting on the shows that he does, and keeps showing the heart that he does... there is no reason whatsoever to unload him.
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