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Old 04-06-2011, 01:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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"Following Dan Hardy's recent unanimous decision loss to Anthony 'Rumble' Johnson on March 26, 2011 at UFC Fight Night 24 many MMA fans took to the forums to discuss his future as he was three fights without a win, The Outlaw's p45 was around the corner. Despite three consecutive defeats UFC President Dana White declared his undying love for The Outlaw, stating he was going nowhere. In fairness why kick out a fighter who comes into the octagon to give the fans their moneys worth!?

Hardy claims on more or less every occasion he wants a toe to toe battle to the death, awesome, but this is mixed martial arts, not Muay Thai. In order to be one of the greats you need to have more than striking and submissions, you need to be an awesome wrestler too. Dan's got the brawl but he hasn't got the sprawl. If Dan wants to sprawl then he must learn from Chuck Liddel who will go down in MMA history as the finest sprawl and brawler ever to grace the sport. Maybe he could take a leaf out of his sworn enemy's book, Josh Koscheck. Welterweight contender Koscheck is a incredible wrestler but was somewhat lacking in the striking department so in order to get his striking up to scratch he did not focus on his wrestling for one year. Dan has scary striking ability, so why not do a Koscheck and go all out wrestling everybodys ass for a year!?

If you take a quick look at The Outlaws record you will notice he isn't shy of a submission victory or two (or four!), he is also a brown belt in Brazilian jui jitsu under Eddie Bravo. So what's the problem!? Dan Hardy's problem is his wrestling!

The Outlaws weakness has been clear to see in two out of his last three bouts. One was his failed attempt at UFC welterweight king George 'Rush' St Pierre's championship and two being the disappointing defeat to Anthony 'Rumble' Johnson. Both occasions Hardy was put on his back with ease, GSP is in a class of his own in the wrestling fraternity and Johnson is a serious wrestler who has many notable medals to his name including 2004 NJCAA national champion plus he is a two time state champion.

The Outlaw has stated he'd love to face Chris 'Lights Out' Lytle who tweeted a response saying "I think it would be awesome, let's do it!". The saliva that's built up in my mouth is incredible anticipating this match up. Let's hope we can witness this bad ass bar room brawl, although what if Chris decides to take this fight to the floor!? Can Dan match him for skill!?

Past and present champions all have wrestling to their arsenal such as BJ Penn, Frankie Edgar, Matt Hughes, GSP, Rich Franklin, Anderson Silva, Tito Ortiz, Chuck Liddel, Jon Jones, Brock Lesnar and finally Cain Velasquez. So in order for Dan Hardy to reach his dream of becoming a champion he must get his act together as it would be so sad to see him booted out of the globes finest MMA organization, afterall he comes to bring it every single time!"

http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/...law-hardy.html

What are all the peeps view about Dan HArdy and where he should go from here? Is it just wrestling letting him down? Whats his problem?
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Old 04-06-2011, 01:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would like hardy just get some training of liddel,cro cop or even okami because they have too be the best sprawlers in the game.

He needs too learn to do simpier stuff aswell in the ground there was a couple of times he could get up using the cage but tried too hard too sub johnston.

I hope he wins his next fight.
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Old 04-06-2011, 01:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It was kind of discussed a lot after his loss but the article says it all. The guy is exciting when the fight is standing but it doesn't really matter when you have such a glaring weakness in your game. This is mixed martial arts. Fighters have multiple ways to win and most guys are down with wrestling. Hardy needs to catch up in that department BIG time before he can ever have hopes of jumping into the top 10 WW's.
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Old 04-06-2011, 02:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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He needs to fight a couple of middle-tier guys that aren't wrestlers. Its obvious he can't hang with the best in his weight class if he can't develop some type of takedown defense.
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Old 04-06-2011, 02:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I definitely think Hardy's sprawl is one of his weakest areas. But weaker still than his sprawl is his scramble. Getting taken down doesn't mean you lose the round. Being held down is what loses a fighter the round. Working on those two major aspects of his glaringly absent wrestling game would make Hardy a much more dangerous fighter.
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This isn't something new and it was discussed prior to the GSP fight and after. It really amazes me that people don't take wrestling seriously, it is the backbone of today's MMA and if you have good wrestling, then it is a whole lot easier to do everything else.

He can bang all he wants, just stuff a takedown and go after him...out of curiosity, has hardy ever stuffed a takedown? his TTD must be 0%.
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This isn't something new and it was discussed prior to the GSP fight and after. It really amazes me that people don't take wrestling seriously, it is the backbone of today's MMA and if you have good wrestling, then it is a whole lot easier to do everything else.

He can bang all he wants, just stuff a takedown and go after him...out of curiosity, has hardy ever stuffed a takedown? his TTD must be 0%.
He's never done the brute force sprawl or explosive sprawl, but he's done the hop on one leg, wriggle out of a single type sprawl, al a BJ Penn, only much less effectively.
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To be fair, not many guys are going to be getting up from under GSP. Also, Rumble is huge and I'm interested to see how he does when on top of a a WW with a good guard and ability to scramble. More than anything though Hardy probably just has a weak scramble. His TDD is non existent, it's like he doesn't even expect the shot and gets completely dumped every time.

Worse thing for him is his stiking isn't even that great.
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Old 04-06-2011, 06:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I think people have the wrong idea.

He shouldnt sprawl and brawl , the days of that are gone unless you are as long and accurate as Silva you aint going to trouble MOST fighters who want to take you down.

He should learn how to shoot in effectively and mix that with his striking like GSP does so that he could confuse the guy, rather than being a one dimensional striker who is looking to just trade.
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The Hardy train wreck was going to go down sooner than later. The UFC hype machine really did a number on em. He's no different than Semtex. Explosive power shots, but lacking on the grappling dept. Both of their fights reminded me of the UFC in the 90's. Kinda hurts see for Semtex cuz I really wanted him to KO Josh and face Thiago Alves. Few people will test you at your strength. Most will exploit your weakness to the max.

Only Anderson Silva, BJ, and Fedor are willing to play into their opponents strength and beat them at their own game.

Anderson Silva beating all fighters standing or on the ground.

BJ outwrestling Fitch.

Fedor GNPing Big Nog who arguably was the best MMA submission artist at the time.
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