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Old 02-15-2007, 11:48 AM   #21 (permalink)
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This is a good fight, I don't really care for either fighter, both are a little too cocky for their perspective records.

Exactly. I don't really watch TUF but wasn't Starnes the one bragging about how he has been in fights with groups on people?
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Old 02-15-2007, 02:44 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Leben looks like he is taking the Tim Sylvia body sculpting class!!Working his way to lhw one donut at a time!
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:38 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Leben looks like he is taking the Tim Sylvia body sculpting class!!Working his way to lhw one donut at a time!

Did he ever look different?
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:43 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Hope Leben loses
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:43 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Yeah I guess he has always been less then ripped,I guess for some reason I have just noticed it more prevalently his last fight.
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Yeah I guess he has always been less then ripped,I guess for some reason I have just noticed it more prevalently his last fight.
He has always looked like a young kid who plays too much playstation and does nothing else. But he's a good fighter. When you look at all the good and great fighters who aren't ripped, it is surely obvious that being ripped means absolutely nothing. In fact, an obsession with being ripped is probably a big disadvantage- it would probably lead to people dehydrating themselves, not doing balanced physical training and not eating enough carbs.
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like most other ppl i dislike leben and I cannot begin to express the joy i had when he fought silva. I think starnes has a good chance at beating leben only because of his strong takedown ability and leben's poor takedown defense. Leben's ground game isnt horrible but starnes is far better. If leben has been working TD defence then i expect this fight to go to him because he has a clear advantage standing.


when has leben displayed bad takedown defence, he has displayed good wrestling.

stuffing almost every single takedown his larger ground specialist opponent jason mcdoanld was making,taking down bjj blackbelt luigi fiovanti at will and bjj black belt jorge santigao whenever he felt like it.

Leben has solid wrestling and takedown defence

unorthadox and dangerous standup with ko power in both hands

solid bjj
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:56 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I was a big fan of Starnes until his puss-job against Grove. I still think he is a decent fighter, and his first fight on TUF was one of the biggest crushes that show has had, but with Canadian guys like Jason MacDonald and Georges St. Pierre making headway in the UFC, Starnes doesn't matter to me much.
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Exactly. I don't really watch TUF but wasn't Starnes the one bragging about how he has been in fights with groups on people?
That was actually Mike Nickels. Makes more sense since he says he has street fighting experience, whatever the hell that is.
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Old 02-15-2007, 10:31 PM   #30 (permalink)
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That was actually Mike Nickels. Makes more sense since he says he has street fighting experience, whatever the hell that is.
Maybe he is like Tank, who earned a reputation by fighting anyone, anywhere.

Is Nickels the same guy who also was a "stick" fighter?
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