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post #21 of 42 (permalink) Old 04-16-2011, 07:57 PM
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We will see tonight as vargas fights...a win and people will jump he is back.
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Vargas is really nobody. The only time he made over a million dollars was with super cash cow Oscar, and it wasn't much more than that.

Not only that, but there's no way Diaz will be getting anything close to 50/50 split if he fights a big name. And in any case, neither fighter will be getting a cut of the PPV, assuming it even makes it on PPV. Quite frankly I'd imagine this being on an HBO or Showtime card at best, ESPN Friday Night Fights at the worst.

People see what guys like Tyson and Mayweather are making and assume that boxers are just making huge amounts of money.


Not the case...but as Uncle Roger said "Most people don't know shit about boxing!"

As i just posted my response to him you already had written this which sums up what i was trying to say nicely

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They can promote that fight like mad.... MMA vs Boxing. He'll definitely get more than any mma fight he's had to date otherwise he wouldn't agree to it, that's for sure.
I really wish you guys wouldn't argue things you don't know anything about.

Diaz doesn't know shit about anything. Literally, the stupid **** hasn't even read his own damn contract.

He's also proven he's incredibly deluded and thinks he'll be making as money as Pacquiao.

Vargas couldn't pass his physical, but even if he was, first of all, no promoters would bother to spend money to market that fight, because Vargas isn't really a big deal, he's exceptionally fat and washed up and no one knows who the **** Nick Diaz is. That fight would probably do 100k buys at absolute best.

As I said, that fight wouldn't even make PPV.

Secondly, he's looking now at Martinez, Lacy and Mayorga.

SHowing how deluded he is again....

Martinez won't fight him, he's a 1-0 nobody and Martinez is one of the best in the world.

Lacy barely is super washed up and almost equally unknown. The dude headlined fights in his prime and made less money than Diaz is making now, let alone put together.

Mayorga would be his best option, but there's no way Mayorga is going to give him a 50/50 split. And there's no way that fight makes PPV. Purse for that fight might be 750,000 at best with Diaz taking maybe 200k if hes lucky. Which is about, or less than he makes now.

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Vargas has lost his last 3 fights bro 2 were stoppages he is 33 and hasnt beaten anyone RELVANT in 10 YEARS ! every Elite fighter he has faced he has lost to Mosley , Oscar De la hoya , Mayorga and Trinidad. Infact his best win is probably winky Wright back in 1999 for Christ sake !


Hardcore boxing fans will not be clamouring to pay for this , Atleast Toney Vs Couture had 2 absolute legends, Vargas isnt one and never will be and neither is Diaz and never will be.
The only reason Toney did the fight was because it was an extremely easy 250k, which is about what he would be making fighting in boxing.


The UFC's marketing strategy is pretty brilliant right now, simply because the brand is so powerful that it can generate a good 250-300k buys based on the brand power alone.

Boxing right now can't even come close to that. Cards with legitimate champions are doing around 50k, for pretty stacked cards.

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We will see tonight as vargas fights...a win and people will jump he is back.
Clearly you dont do your homework

Henry Buchanan his opponent is a the equivalent of Patrick Cote , sure he will win a few a fights vs Lower level guys but when he fights any guys on the fringe or above gets totally outclassed. Basically he just fills the division only i actually think Cote is alot more talented than Sugar POO as Vargas's opponent is called

A win for either man is nothing to scream about , its a payday for Vargas and just a semi big name of an over the hill fighter on his resume for the other .

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Clearly you dont do your homework

Henry Buchanan his opponent is a the equivalent of Patrick Cote , sure he will win a few a fights vs Lower level guys but when he fights any guys on the fringe or above gets totally outclassed. Basically he just fills the division only i actually think Cote is alot more talented than Sugar POO as Vargas's opponent is called

A win for either man is nothing to scream about , its a payday for Vargas and just a semi big name of an over the hill fighter on his resume for the other .
He's not even on the level of Patrick Cote.

Buchanan is just an outright can.

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I care, not to watch them if possible. That's just my opinion though. A good ground battle, NOTHING is better. A wrestler holding top position...Fitch, Maynard types, i'll go watch Golf.



On a side note relating to general skills for protecting yourself in a fight (which bjj was made for, along with boxing), Im pretty convinced wrestling will just get you in serious trouble in most fights, that's why I despise it.

Yea great, you can pin someone on the ground, what about when their friend shows up and soccer kicks you in the face. Wrestling is a points fight only skill to me, bjj is built for quick fight ending submissions, which makes it different. If i'm out of line, let me know what you think.
Yeah, Fitch and Maynard, real boring.

If Fitch and Maynard just lay on people, explain how Edgar got dropped about 4 times and how BJ was on the verge of retirement after the Fitch fight, how BJ was acting like he lost his best friend, because Fitch took BJ down and did what he's done to everyone outside of GSP, he took them down and he brutalized them.

Afterall, they just don't hand out 10-8's for laying there, but MMA "fans" will never come to appreciate wrestling and the Jon Fitch's and Gray Maynard's of the world, which is pretty sad.
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It's not really sad.

Both guys just aren't exciting fighters at all.

Very solid, and very good. But not exciting.

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Yeah, Fitch and Maynard, real boring.

If Fitch and Maynard just lay on people, explain how Edgar got dropped about 4 times and how BJ was on the verge of retirement after the Fitch fight, how BJ was acting like he lost his best friend, because Fitch took BJ down and did what he's done to everyone outside of GSP, he took them down and he brutalized them.

Afterall, they just don't hand out 10-8's for laying there, but MMA "fans" will never come to appreciate wrestling and the Jon Fitch's and Gray Maynard's of the world, which is pretty sad.
The sun shines on a dog's ass every once in a while, pal.

In general, Maynard and ESPECIALLY Fitch are boring fighters. Can they put on exciting fights? Sure, have they? Of course, but that doesn't change your overall outlook. They are both incredibly boring fighters, by percentage.

Yeah, MMA "fans" can't appreciate the Jon Fitch's of the world, the kind that just allows himself to sit in guard for 15 minutes because he's good enough not to get submitted and too strong to budge. Appreciate it, appreciate that grittiness, GRRR! Sorry, against people like Ben Saunders, Rich Clementi, etc, this strategy should not apply.
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I really wish you guys wouldn't argue things you don't know anything about.
Really? Diaz isn't going to boxing for the fun of it, he's going for money, like he said. He may not have read his contract, but he read the Salary, i'm sure of it. He'll also read the boxing salary in his contract. Hard to miss those parts, so I don't see your point. I don't think the man is going if the money isn't right. So no need to crank out all that.

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MMA "fans" will never come to appreciate wrestling and the Jon Fitch's and Gray Maynard's of the world, which is pretty sad.
That's because there's an entire sport called Wrestling, sure these guys are evolving, but the fights you mentioned are the only matchup that makes exciting fights with a wrestler. Wrestler vs Wrestler, or Wrestler vs Bj Penn.

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