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post #41 of 172 (permalink) Old 07-09-2006, 09:05 PM
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yeah we all know that pride probably has the superior fighters. but i think hughes could probably dominate in pride.
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Exactly JDun.

And yes UFC has the superior fighters. I am still waiting for another 1994 flashback, where PRIDE sends over their Sumo Wrestlers (Their champs) and get submitted. Its quite hilarious. Pride has yet to evolve, whereas UFC is what made the MMA sport what it is today, with help from Gracie, etc..UFC is what made PRIDE what it is, even though PRIDE is more like the WWF as I explained, or a simple sparring match between two tae kwan do martial Artists, but thats it. Its quite simple to understand.
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Originally Posted by jdun11
and wat about baroni, chuck beat mezger and overeem in pride..coleman, randleman all won fights over there wat are u talkin about u idiot

last time i checked baroni, randleman and coleman weren't current ufc champs. i'm not saying that every fighter in pride is better than every fighter in the ufc; that would be stupid. but it is also stupid to think that everyone in the ufc is better than evryone in pride. on the whole, pride has the better fighters, especially the heavyweights where the ufc is SORELY lacking.

and as far as the ufc being "more evolved" than pride: the main event for ufc60 involved royce gracie. the "co-main event" for ufc61 included ken shamrock. how is that "evolved"?
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Is there a site that hasn't had Fedor ranked as #1 pound for pound fighter in the world the past 4 years? So the whole Pride fighters suck thing is kinda overstated.

As for Chuck VS Wand. Both are great fighters, both have improved in the last 7 years. Wandy has improved more. It should go to him, but a decent fight.

Also ask yourself this, if the UFC had a heavyweight GP, like pride. Would Chuck step in if someone had to drop out?? Silva did and won, destroying a bigger toughassed fighter in Kazuyuki Fujita. UFC isn't a joke, but Pride does have the edge in the HW and LHW classes, UFC has the edge in the lighter weights. Let's see Tim Silvia challenge Fedor next, that would be total destruction!
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I can see 3 things happenning in the Liddell vs. Silva fight.

1. Silva comes out swinging, his punches and kicks are too fast for Liddell to counter and Liddell is overwhelmed. Fight ends with Silva getting a quick TKO due to referee stoppage.

2. Silva Comes out swinging, he's fast and strong, but he's also very wild. Chuck knows this, and when Silva starts throwing wild shots he eats a big right hook, Liddell wins by KO(Silva is a tough dude, possibly a TKO.)

3. The fight goes the distance, and this one I can't comment on. It will truly be an amazing fight I hope.
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Chuck's got a few inches on Sliva so hence a greater reach in most cases...Muay Thai Vs. Hawaiian Kempo ..... and sure Wanderlei beat Rampage twice and Chuck lost to Quinton, but that was in '03, Liddell has improved greatly, nobody can deny that... if you wanna go back, well way back when Silva lost to Tito who Chuck absolutely destroyed, you just can't compare fights... come Nov. and I saw that confidently cuz Chuck will not get taken down by Sobral, we shall see who is the greatest in all the land, the greatest fight of all time will happen possibly too.....
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All i can say is WOW...This is a fight for the times if it goes ahead. Silva likes kicking downed opponents in his axe murderer fashion....this might be a problem when he cant do it in UFC.

But seriously 2 tough ass athletes gettin it on.....what could be better....cant wait.
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I just hope Wandi is better at defending the ground and pound than against Tito years ago. He had no answer for the takedown, even if not much damage was inflicted.

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Originally Posted by jdun11
This Is A Great Fight U Guys Are Nuts If U Think Wandy Will Own Chuck..this Fight Is Gonna Be Crazy
I have to agree with you here, It is gonna be one hell of a match up. Even though I a am not a fan of Chuck I think he can take this fight. Silva is an animal but that may be his downfall, Chuck could very easily exploit Silva's wild and crazy style and we all know what happens when Chuck hits someone flush.


Tyson in his prime was one scary guy, and poor little Fedor would stand no chance at all under any circumstances. It would be absolutely imbarrasing for him.
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I think a majority of people who post in here are in their Teen years, and haven't a clue as to what PRIDE and UFC is really about. As I stated, UFC has far better fighters than PRIDE, bar none, hands down.. There is no competition there. Now that you understand that, chuck Already beat Babalu. And Wanderlai, as I said, left UFC becuase he lost his only two UFC matches back to back, and had to go to PRIDE, becuase he could not hack it in the UFC. Do your research fellas, before you come on these boards spouting and touting your bull crap. UFC is like Major League baseball, whereas PRIDE is like College Ball, if that. Its on an HNL, hole notha level.

Again. Wanderlai was in UFC before, and lost all of his matches, 100% of his matches, ERGO had to goto PRIDE with the Sumo Wrestlers, and TAE kwan do experts. Give me a break... Whats funny is even in 2006 they still have Sumo wrestlers and TAe kwan do artists fighting, as if they are skilled. Its hilarious. Pride is more comprised of one or two martial arts, rather than MMA. Again, its like College Ball compared to the Major leagues.
UFC is on the HNL - Hole notha level. Get you rfacts straight guys before you post here, seriously. I would hate for people to misguided by a bunch of teenagers who haven't a clue as to what they are talking about.
But hey, if you want to watch Ex Sumo wrestlers fight Guys with a black belt in Tae Kwan Do, or some bull crap like that, watch PRIDE.

PRIDE is like the WWF. If you like watching a bunch of Non talent artists fighting, or just Single Talented fighters fight, then watch Pride.. If you want to watch true MMA, head on down to the UFC. Simple facts.

That will be all.
Dude, I couldnt have said it any better myself, it is so refreshing to know there is some one out there who actually sees the forrest for the trees.
Pride puts all these "punching bags" in front of there "top" guys and when people see them get destroyed they assume the guy handing out the ass whipping is one of the greates fighter out there. Its bullshit. The UFC puts 2 world class fighters both with well rounded games in there together, you have to be serious contender to even enter the UFC. anyway thanks man you are by far the smartest guy on the forum
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