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post #51 of 172 (permalink) Old 07-10-2006, 02:38 PM
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Let me guess... Chuck had the flu when he fought Rampage? His hands were hurt.... he forgot to train...... He took Ramgage lightly perhaps?

Whats worse gentlemen is that Chuck quit the fight. He didn't get knocked out or Subd he just didn't want to continue.... That's what we call a Game Loser in the Gym.... A fighter who only likes to fight win he's ahead......

Again I don't know all the facts, perhaps there was good plausable reason Chucky didn't want to fight anymore....

And I don't want to say what Wandy did to Rampage.........
Alright man, first off that was almost 4 years ago, did you even know who Chuck Liddell was 4 years ago????? I bet you did'nt. Since then, what has he done? Hmm, well it seems to me that he has KOed the list of whos who in MMA.
And EVERY ONE has bad days, Chuck is no exception. I am not even a Liddell fan but what you are saying is just plain stupid man, do some research go watch a little more and then come back and state your arguments.
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post #52 of 172 (permalink) Old 07-10-2006, 02:42 PM
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Couldn't be put better. Liddell's fecal matter will be spread out on the mat. I feel sorry for that guy. However, if Wand goes through the grand prix in pride he will only have about two months to prepare and heal up for this big fight.
Then again he could probably take Liddell with one eye closed.
We'll see how Wanderlei does against some real competition and when he can't stomp people, oh yeah we already did, Tito Ortiz pummeled him and Vitor Belfort knocked his ass out in 44 seconds. Wanderlei is too wild and will not be able to stand up to Chuck's superior strikes. He could get lucky but I very Seriously doubt it, if Chuck hits him once it may all be over.
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I thinks it depends what rules are gonna be in effect for this fight Silva's biggest weapons are his knee's. In pride there are more legal ways you can use knees while on the ground thats why Sylvia is so dominate in pride. Ufc has limitations on how you can attack some one with a knee from the ground. Personally i think this fight should take place in a parking lot.
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Personally i think this fight should take place in a parking lot.
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We'll see how Wanderlei does against some real competition and when he can't stomp people, oh yeah we already did, Tito Ortiz pummeled him and Vitor Belfort knocked his ass out in 44 seconds. Wanderlei is too wild and will not be able to stand up to Chuck's superior strikes. He could get lucky but I very Seriously doubt it, if Chuck hits him once it may all be over.
He and Tito fought a LONG time ago. Did you not see him on the last Pride? He will be a handful, and should be a good fight.

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Pride puts all these "punching bags" in front of there "top" guys and when people see them get destroyed they assume the guy handing out the ass whipping is one of the greates fighter out there. Its bullshit.
You have a great point there. Look at the heavyweights last 10 fights.
FEDOR- 3/5 against top 10 ranked heavys in the world
NOG- 2/5 against top 10 ranked heavys in the world
CROCOP- 3/5 against top 10 ranked heavys in the world
HUNT- 2/5 against top 10 ranked heavys in the world + Silva on short notice
BARNETT- 4/5 against top 10 ranked heavys in the world...

Hold on a sec...that 14/25 against the top 5, add the next 2 rounds of the GP and you'll get 17/28 if you include Silva in the mix. So your saying the top 5 ranked heavys in the world are "punching bags?".

UFC is soooo weak in the heavys that after AA and Silvia, there isn't much. Paul "The Headhunter" Buentello, Justin Eilers, Assuerio Silva, Tra "Trauma" Telligman and Mike Block are not "punching bags", thats the opponents for your 2 heavys besides each other.

Cmon, UFC is slightly stronger in the lighter classes and seriously outmatched in the LHW and HW divisions. Chuck VS Wand will be a great fight, not forgetting Pride has the #1 ranked LHW in the world as well...SHOGUN! ( and Arona and little NOG)
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Chuck Shall Reign Supreme

Anyone betting on WANKerlei Silva is going to have an empty wallet August 27th. Givin that Chuck's takedown defence is getting close to impeccable, I'd say Silva's gonna get taken to school. This is the striker's era in the UFC. Wanderlei will return to Pride not only with his tail between his legs, but his whole face will look like an eggplant - bruised. I'll bet anyone, no reasonable offer refused!

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Wandy is no submissionist. He never takes people down. So your premise is way off, in my view.

Both are stand up strikers. Wandy throws a lot of hooks at a time, rocking left and right as he does. He is very fast, but the hooking motion of his combinations does take some speed away.

Chuck throws with a straight-ahead style a lot, and can easily KO his opponent with a straight, short punch (see both Couture fights).

This one has to go to Liddell. Neither guy will waste energy on the ground.

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I think a majority of people who post in here are in their Teen years, and haven't a clue as to what PRIDE and UFC is really about. As I stated, UFC has far better fighters than PRIDE, bar none, hands down.. There is no competition there. Now that you understand that, chuck Already beat Babalu. And Wanderlai, as I said, left UFC becuase he lost his only two UFC matches back to back, and had to go to PRIDE, becuase he could not hack it in the UFC. Do your research fellas, before you come on these boards spouting and touting your bull crap. UFC is like Major League baseball, whereas PRIDE is like College Ball, if that. Its on an HNL, hole notha level.

Again. Wanderlai was in UFC before, and lost all of his matches, 100% of his matches, ERGO had to goto PRIDE with the Sumo Wrestlers, and TAE kwan do experts. Give me a break... Whats funny is even in 2006 they still have Sumo wrestlers and TAe kwan do artists fighting, as if they are skilled. Its hilarious. Pride is more comprised of one or two martial arts, rather than MMA. Again, its like College Ball compared to the Major leagues.
UFC is on the HNL - Hole notha level. Get you rfacts straight guys before you post here, seriously. I would hate for people to misguided by a bunch of teenagers who haven't a clue as to what they are talking about.
But hey, if you want to watch Ex Sumo wrestlers fight Guys with a black belt in Tae Kwan Do, or some bull crap like that, watch PRIDE.

PRIDE is like the WWF. If you like watching a bunch of Non talent artists fighting, or just Single Talented fighters fight, then watch Pride.. If you want to watch true MMA, head on down to the UFC. Simple facts.

That will be all.
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Dude You got a lot of balls comming here spewing your garbage and trying to run shit.. ! Calling people "Newbs", "Teens", "Wannabee MMA'ers" and telling them to do thier research just because thier "Opinions" don't coinsides with yours.. Might I suggest that Since you're such an authority on the MMA scene, that maybe you should dive into those massive archives -that only a professional like you must have- and do a little research yourself. You know., Practice what you preach..!! Yes it's true that Wandelei lost to Belfort and Ortiz, but that was like 7 or 8 years ago he's a much improved fighter now and today he could beat ether.. Need I remind you, Chuck has a few blemishes on his record as well..! Also your suggestion that Wandelei Left the UFC because he couldn't win there is ludacrous. Am I to say the same of Chuck just because he go his ass kicked by Rampage (on PRIDE turf)..? Oh., by the way, Wandelei Beat Rampage (Also on PRIDE..) Just in case your research doesn't turn that up..!! The truth is that Both Fighters have had lossses ( Which Champ Hasn't.?) It's part of thier evolvement, Part of thier growth.. Both fighters have grown and evolved tremendously since thier respective losses into what they are today, "CHAMPIONS".! If you for one minute think any less of ether one you're a Fool.. Also, If you think PRIDE is little league or to qoute you "Preschool" then you are equally a fool..! PRIDE includes fighters from all over the world and in all disciplines of hand to hand combat (i.e., MMA) That's why they are a bigger draw than the UFC. They also have more fighters hence, fights are more equally matched and more competative..! I can go on and on but what's the point.? Putting it all in a nutshell, you know what I found out.? That I'm A big UFC Fan, But I'm an even bigger MMA Fan. Unlike you, I can walk across the street and chew gum at the same time. I enjoy watching the UFC. In addition, I enjoy watching PRIDE, K-1 and anything else that showcase an MMA event.. Most of the people on this site do as well.!!!

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These guys have been wanting to fight each other for a long time. If they get to fight it is going to be absolutely amazing!

Q: He(Wanderlei Silva) said he's really looking forward to fight you in the finals.

A: (Mirko CroCop) Thats his problem.
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