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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-18-2011, 03:53 PM Thread Starter
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Brock Lesnar - I don’t know if you ever get used to taking punches



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”Obviously as a fighter you want to keep continuing to evolve,” säger Brock Lesnar. ”And I think as my fights have evolved I have faced guys with better boxing skills and it’s an area I definitely need to work on. As far as learning… I don’t know if you ever get used to taking punches, but that’s not the problem. The problem is all my other assets have been farther ahead of the game and this is one we’re going to have to keep lagging along and not get frustrated and understand I got to get better.
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It's not about getting use to being punched , it's about learning how to take a punch w/o panicking .

Alot of fighters get's hit and doesnt freak out like he does .

I love Brock but this is his biggest weakness right now and with JDS punching power , this could easily turn out like the Cain fight .

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Hmmm... he was landing punches on Cain in the exchanges and they both demonstrated poor technique, and Brock undoubtedly hits with force. IMO it was his poor hit reaction that let Cain get the upper hand, not being outboxed.

Point being, even the best strikers get hit, but none of them would win fights if they reacted like Brock does, so I don't think any amount of strike specific training will help him out against even average strikers. Even if Brock were a good striker, he wouldn't be a slick one, he'd be a hard hitter who can take a lot of damage.

Brock should just train his takedowns, train to use his bulk as a guard, close the distance and clinch, which is a position where he should be able to decimate people because as soon as he takes a shot he doesn't like, he can just trip and takedown, but he doesn't know enough about distance and footwork yet.

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Hmmm... he was landing punches on Cain in the exchanges and they both demonstrated poor technique, and Brock undoubtedly hits with force. IMO it was his poor hit reaction that let Cain get the upper hand, not being outboxed.

Agreed. I can't find a video or gif of the first exchanges against the fence but there's plenty of the final exchanges:




I've always said that Lesnar vs. Cain had some of the worst technical striking exchanges at HW in history. Both just throwing hands from their waist, flat footed, back straight, chins out blah blah. I dunno if Cain just wasn't scared at all of Lesnar's boxing so he just let his hands go without trying to be at all technical, but it was seriously awful and about even, Brock landing some shots and Cain landing some shots.



But the difference in ability to take a punch, not be scared of getting hit and apparently iron will made Cain the clear victor that night.




After reading the article it really seems like Brock just doesn't get it. Nobody is saying his boxing is awful (it is but effectiveness is all that matters in MMA), and nobody is confusing it because his wrestling is so much better than his striking.

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Yes, you do get used to taking a punch. Its about how you react that makes you used to it.

Do yo wince and look away. Do you cover up and try to sidestep out. Do you lift an arm and move your head out of the way while moving the head so the crown is the only possibe target, or do you just say screw it! and ignore the punches.

Bolded is what Lesnar did. Which is what everyone who's not used to having fists landing on their face does. Some combination of the rest is what everyone who's used to it does.



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I believe Lesnar is just too lazy and/or scared to train hardcore boxing/striking and improve his stand-up.

I've always said it: he needs to get in the ring, put on some boxing gloves and bring in big guys who hit hard and start to BOX! Until he isn't scared to turtle up.

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I believe Lesnar is just too lazy and/or scared to train hardcore boxing/striking and improve his stand-up.

I've always said it: he needs to get in the ring, put on some boxing gloves and bring in big guys who hit hard and start to BOX! Until he isn't scared to turtle up.

Bas Rutten said it himself (better than i did, of course)

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Brock needs major work on his standup. Because if he can't take Junior down, what's he going to do for the rest of the fight?
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Brock needs major work on his standup. Because if he can't take Junior down, what's he going to do for the rest of the fight?


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Suffer.
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