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Old 04-23-2011, 06:30 PM   #21 (permalink)
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But BOTH VERSIONS of Overeem have no heart and suspect chin
And Cain's chin isn't suspect?

How many times did Kongo rock him? 4-5?
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And Cain's chin isn't suspect?

How many times did Kongo rock him? 4-5?

Oh you mean Cain "I've been rocked 1.5 times in my career and never KO'd" Velasquez? Or do we mean the Overeem who's been knocked out like nine or ten times?
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And Cain's chin isn't suspect?

How many times did Kongo rock him? 4-5?
as i recall he did not go into a shell , infact he RECOVERED and won the fight in dominating fashion after being hit extremely hard.

Also how many times has Cain been T/KO'ED ? and how many times has Overeem been T/KO'ed ?

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But BOTH VERSIONS of Overeem have no heart and suspect chin
And your argument for this IS...?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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Oh you mean Cain "I've been rocked 1.5 times in my career and never KO'd" Velasquez? Or do we mean the Overeem who's been knocked out like nine or ten times?
who has Cain fought so far? Just a bunch of irrelevant guys if you ask me..

Overeem has been in there against the elite, even as a kid.
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who has Cain fought so far? Just a bunch of irrelevant guys if you ask me..

Overeem has been in there against the elite, even as a kid.
The Elite in a weight class lower , imagine what Cain would do if he hit him.

Well look what Sergei did lmao
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who has Cain fought so far? Just a bunch of irrelevant guys if you ask me..

Overeem has been in there against the elite, even as a kid.
This.

Most of the guys he fought and got KOed were the most feared MMA strikers of the time.

Not to mention Overeems stand up is >>>>>>>>>>>> than it was then.

Cain's striking has also improved leaps and bounds from his Kongo fight, but Overeem is KOing K1 fighters, Cain is KOing Zombie Nog.
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The Elite in a weight class lower , imagine what Cain would do if he hit him.

Well look what Sergei did lmao
He fought the who is who as a kid Sambo, as a kid!
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I looked above...and i'm sorry to announce you: your argument is invalid.

Overeem pre-Kharitonov was a fighter with a suspect chin - YES. Heart...we can't really judge that. You can't say he didn't show heart against Shogun, when he was being hit with huge bombs and getting KO'd.

But you said "BOTH VERSIONS" have no heart - i fail to see where you discovered this!

And no chin?! Did you seriously give me Overeem's fight in K1 against Hari?! The best striker in K1/in the world?!

You're joking, right?!
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