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Old 04-25-2011, 02:48 AM   #21 (permalink)
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no i cannot convinced the majority of people
but i rewatched the fight at least 5 times and i can really agree y they gave machida the win
every round i count leg kicks and punches that connects
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Old 04-25-2011, 04:52 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Onn: impressive or not he wouldn't be able to do this all if he wasn't Machida.
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Onn: impressive or not he wouldn't be able to do this all if he wasn't Machida.
He wouldn't be able to do it without the badass that is BJ Penn, who took a fight against a guy who had 50 lbs on him. The fight went to the distance.
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Do you really think that the majority of the people are going to change their minds based on not watching it with audio?

This is the of the most retarded rehashed arguments I've heard.
You should try it.
People can and will be influenced by Rogan screaming "wow, what a kick" while Shogun was being punched in the face/body while doing it.
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Do you really think that the majority of the people are going to change their minds based on not watching it with audio?

This is the of the most retarded rehashed arguments I've heard.
It is a very common fact actually, that Rogan was completely biased towards Shogun that night, which of course affects the average MMA watcher.

Maybe your statement was retarded?
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Maybe i should watch the fight without the commentary as well. I'm more than sure that watching a fight without commentary can change my opinion about the outcome.
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That is a cool Machida fact stat, but he hasn't defeated Couture yet.

And not to revisit past debates but it's a fact, at 104 Machida got TIMED, plain and simple, commentary or no commentary. He got punished for nearly every attack he made, most of his shots were blocked and when he did land anything, Rua kept pushing forward being the aggressor, controlling him on the fence. It was obvious who took the most damage in that fight.

Then at 113 Rua switched on Blitzkrieg mode and timed Lyoto again.
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That is a cool Machida fact stat, but he hasn't defeated Couture yet.

And not to revisit past debates but it's a fact, at 104 Machida got TIMED, plain and simple, commentary or no commentary. He got punished for nearly every attack he made, most of his shots were blocked and when he did land anything, Rua kept pushing forward being the aggressor, controlling him on the fence. It was obvious who took the most damage in that fight.

Then at 113 Rua switched on Blitzkrieg mode and timed Lyoto again.
LMAO^^ Lyoto was winning that fight until Rua landed and Lyoto didn't. It was a lucky overhand right, if Lyoto had landed his straight left and wouldn't have been so impatient, then the fight outcome would have been different most likely.
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no i cannot convinced the majority of people
but i rewatched the fight at least 5 times and i can really agree y they gave machida the win
every round i count leg kicks and punches that connects
Well then you need to brush up on your counting skills and math, because Shogun clearly out struck Machida by a decent enough margin. Shogun landed more shots and he landed the harder shots, he was robbed of a decision.

You can watch the fight with or without commentary as many times as you like, the better fighter that night was clear.

Fan boys are ridiculous. I don't understand why people can't be fans of fighters but not have a biased opinion and be realistic about what actually happens.
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LMAO^^ Lyoto was winning that fight until Rua landed and Lyoto didn't. It was a lucky overhand right, if Lyoto had landed his straight left and wouldn't have been so impatient, then the fight outcome would have been different most likely.
Shit like this is why it useless to even engage in conversation with Lyoto nuthuggers.
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