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Georges St Pierre 55 82.09%
Jake Shields 12 17.91%
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post #211 of 316 (permalink) Old 05-01-2011, 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by vandalian View Post
So what is Jake Shields now, some bum off the street? Does beating him earn a man no credit all of a sudden?
This. Going through a 15 fight win streak against some good people with suspect stand up is impressive to say the least. Jake Shields is a legit top notch MMA fighter. Their are so many ways to win in MMA and Shields always found ways to win.
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post #212 of 316 (permalink) Old 05-01-2011, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex_DeLarge_V2 View Post
Haha, that was a bad idea, but I mean, what else did you expect?

You have the worst striker in the welterweight division going against the most conservative, ball-less champion in UFC history.
gsp said before the fight 'don't blink' so i thought he'd go for broke and really try to ko him. shields had ZERO standup
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My thoughts on this fight:

GSP wrestling was far superior, which I expected. He was sneaky and used it late to score points without having to risk being stuck in Jakes guard for long.

I knew Jake was cagey, but he is cagey as hell in there, a true veteran. He does little minor, subtle things to make you miss and to make it awkward. This is why GSPs stand-up looked poor.

GSP showed his heart in there and shrunk when he couldn't see out of one eye. I'm goad he came out for the 5th with a bit more attitude.

GSP showed he really needs to losen up his boxing technique, he is slow as hell and stiff. He doesn't know how to uncoil to generate power, not to mention that windmill overhand right is terrible. He needs to learn better technique as well as top benching so much and work on his uncoiling of his body, no point having huge power in your legs for stand-up if you don't now how to use it.

All in all decent fight and pretty much what we expect from GSP now, superior in nearly every way but not a real show.
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He never committed to any of those that GSP side stepped. He seemed like he wanted GSP to think he wanted to take him down more than he actually wanted to.

And catching kicks hardly qualifies as shooting for a takedown.
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Originally Posted by Squirrelfighter View Post
He tried to clinch with him 3/4 times. But definitely only shot low once, twice at the most and that's assuming I forgot about the second one.
Shields managed to catch 3 or 4 kicks and turn them into takedown attempts, all of which failed. Then there were the clinches you mentioned which failed as well. There was shot where GSP sidestepped him and pushed him off the way he did with Koscheck in the 3rd round, low shot to ankle pick attempt which failed, and I'm pretty sure there was another one.

He definitely failed hard. My only assumptions are A)He wass really nervous and couldn't focus B)He had a pisspoor gameplan C)The Stockton mentality is contageous.
I'd say C and also that GSP's footwork is just too good & fast for him to deal with. Shields has never gone up against a good wrestler who has that kind of speed & footwork, against slower guys he could always get a good hold on them and drag them down. He just couldn't do that against GSP, he doesn't have the speed & explosiveness to put him down.
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No..but going against the worst, most lackadaisical striker in the welterweight division and afraid to engage...had one damaging blow the entire fight and didn't want to persue into Jake's guard and finish him off even if Jake was probably still rocked from the head, why? Because he was afraid.

Jake Shields went through a 15 fight win streak because he has a very good ground game, not because he was knocking out guys left and right.

Still after all these years, these delusional people are still missing the point when it comes to the conservative Georges St. Pierre.

No one is upset that GSP works against his opponents weakness. It's the fact he shows no will to finish, no heart to persue, and sneaks out the back door by winning with his athleticism and cardio. Yeah, he's hard to take down, yeah, it's hard to stop his takedowns. so welterweights are screwed either way. Fact of the matter is that this is so afraid to even show the most MINISCULE amount of risk. He has no power, overrated submission skills. The guy is not a true champion.

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gsp said before the fight 'don't blink' so i thought he'd go for broke and really try to ko him. shields had ZERO standup
GSP says he's going to finish every fight, as do most fighters in reality. Then after the fight he'll pretend to be all upset that he couldn't get the finish, when in reality he didn't want the finish to begin with.
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Before this fight - Shields was GOOD!

After the fight - Shields is bad?!

Fans are crazy sometimes...



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Want to know something funny?

IMO, Jon Fitch's last three fights were far and away more exciting than GSP's.

Jon: Fight with BJ was awesome, the last round was a constant barage of whoopass. Fight with Alves was almost all Jon out striking Alves. Fight with Ben Saunders was three rounds of him throwing as hard as he possibly could and trying to wreck Ben's face.

GSP: Shields was him taking no chances against someone he obviously could've KO'd if he tried. Kos was him taking no chances he could obviously KO'd (He broke his god damn orbital in the first and proceeded to jab him for 4 rounds -.-) Hardy was a grapple **** that he SHOULD have finished if he would've committed, all he had to do was change position and risk it a little bit and he would've broken Hardy's arm.

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Aye, the fact that GSP could finish these guys is getting a tad bothersome, but again, I can only judge the man so much. For all the shite we give GSP, the fact remains, no one has made him break his game plan. His opponents deserve a bit of grief, as well.
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Originally Posted by limba View Post
Before this fight - Shields was GOOD!

After the fight - Shields is bad?!

Fans are crazy sometimes...
Before this fight - everyone knew Jake Shields had awful stand-up

After this fight - people still knew Jake Shields had awful stand-up.

Before this fight - most (intelligent) people thought GSP would keep the fight on the feet because he'd be too afraid to see Shields on the ground.

After this fight - people saw GSP keep the fight on the feet and was too afraid (even when he had Shields rocked, haha) to engage Shields.

Such a lame argument. Jake Shields is a great grappler, and no one is calling him a "bum" overall. But if you can't tell this guy has the worst stand-up in welterweight division, maybe even in all of the UFC, you're disregarding facts.

Some fans are crazy, some fans are fickle. Case in point.
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