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K R Y 04-25-2011 08:44 AM

***OFFICIAL*** Randy Couture vs. Lyoto Machida
 


Please conduct ALL of your discussion in regards to Georges St Pierre fighting Jake Shields at UFC 129 in this thread. All threads made in regards to this fight will be merged into this one.

mo25 04-25-2011 09:45 AM

Machida takes this one. I think it will be a pretty easy match up for him.

Soojooko 04-25-2011 09:59 AM

Randy hasn't had a competitive fight since Nov 2009. Last two outings were freak shows that he never would have lost.

How good is Randy right now? I'm not sure anybody really knows. How can they. But we'll find out saturday that's for sure.

But while we're guessing... Machida KO first minute.

oldfan 04-25-2011 10:23 AM

I guess I need to look up the definition of "freakshow".

I don't understand how a fight against a former champion who had just beat Stephan Bonner and had FOTN with Shogun qualifies.

Just because Captain America made it look easy doesn't mean it was.

Smith
Rizzo
Liddell
Gonzaga
Vera
All younger, faster, better strikers than Randy.

Machida will be in fine company when he adds his name to that list.

Soojooko 04-25-2011 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldfan (Post 1402541)
I guess I need to look up the definition of "freakshow".

I don't understand how a fight against a former champion who had just beat Stephan Bonner and had FOTN with Shogun qualifies.

Just because Captain America made it look easy doesn't mean it was.

Smith
Rizzo
Liddell
Gonzaga
Vera
All younger, faster, better strikers than Randy.

Machida will be in fine company when he adds his name to that list.

The Vera fight was his last competitive fight. My point is that none of us know where he is at, as hes been unchallenged in any way since. Coleman was NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS going to do anything of note to Couture, and thats exactly as it went down.

Basically, how do you know what kind of capabilities Randy has right now? We haven't seen him do shit for ages! All this talk of a 45 year olds clinch game that nobody has seen tested for 1.5 years... as if its exactly as it was then.

If Randy wins I will be in awe of him. No doubt about it.

oldfan 04-25-2011 10:57 AM

Bleacher report
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Lyoto Machida is always prepared and concentrated inside of the cage, as he outside of it, but his opponent thinks otherwise.

Randy Couture, who will challenge Machida at UFC 129, says he believes Machida is doing a lot more talking than he usually does and it leads him to believe that the Brazilian is worried prior to next Saturday night.

"I've seen Lyoto's comments, 'Oh, now I'm going to have to beat the judges, too'. That tells me he's concerned about the fight a little bit," the 47-year-old told Sports Illustrated.

Whether Couture is only adding fuel to the fire is anyone's guess, but the fact is that Machida is on a two-fight losing streak and he could risk the possibility of losing a third to Couture. Not only do oddsmakers favour the Brazilian to defeat Couture, but it is expected by most fans, too. If not, Machida's losing streak might not be the only thing he has to worry about.

Ever since losing the UFC light heavyweight title a year ago to Mauricio "Shogun" Rua at UFC 113, Machida followed that up with a split decision loss to Quinton "Rampage" Jackson at UFC 123.

Something was visibly wrong with the once-invinceable fighter. And Couture sees that too.

"I think it's in his head. He's worried about the fight and how it's going to be for him. Obviously, coming off two losses, his confidence isn't as high as it probably was a year ago," Couture said.


With that being said, Couture has a good idea on what to expect from his opponent.

"He's going to run away and try to draw me into that range where he likes to be, and I'm going to try to pressure him, and cut him off and get my hands on him."

UFC 129 will be a historical night for many reasons, one reason being that this will be Couture's final bout in the octagon. Whether he wins or loses, Couture vows to hang up his gloves for good.

As for Machida, anything but a win will prevent him from re-entering the title picture.

And while UFC 129 is guaranteed to be Couture's last stand, it might also be the final chance for Machida to reestablish himself as a top contender.
don't worry Machida. You're young you'll be back.:thumb02:

BobbyCooper 04-25-2011 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soojooko (Post 1402533)
Randy hasn't had a competitive fight since Nov 2009. Last two outings were freak shows that he never would have lost.

How good is Randy right now? I'm not sure anybody really knows. How can they. But we'll find out saturday that's for sure.

But while we're guessing... Machida KO first minute.

Great Call :thumbsup:

First Round KO!!!

georgie17891 04-25-2011 03:39 PM

Machida will knock him down and then pound him for a couple of seconds and the ref will stop it, first round.

cdtcpl 04-25-2011 04:54 PM

'Randy can't beat Chuck, he'll be KO'ed within a minute'
'Randy can't beat Tito, Tito is a much better wrestler and will control him'
'Randy can't beat Tim Sylvia, the reach is too great and he is too old. Tim will KO him any way he likes.'
'Randy can't beat Gonzaga, he is the young buck who will dethrone the old lion.'

I've heard it before, and Dana White corrects people the best, 'I have learned to never bet against Randy Couture.' Say what you want but I think Randy is going to go out on a huge win.

Dream-On-101 04-25-2011 05:30 PM

Couture takes this one by UD in my opinion. I trust in his clinch abilities being superior to those of Machidas - Jackson held him against the cage and got a takedown - and i think he will be able to dominate him against the fence, interspersed with takedown attempts.

On a side note, Machida is likely to come out far more aggressive in this bout. Mainly because he lost the fight with Rampage purely by his own reluctance to engage and constant backpedaling. That will be interesting to see.


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