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Kinda like what happened to Shogun against Jones, right?!
Getting tagged then gassing.....

Thanks for admitting this is possible.
It is limba, but Rashad was more danzed then gasses there. He didn't knew where he was.

You don't automatically gas out, you just lose your senses from being punched hard. He started doing the spanky leg or how is it called..


However that wasn't at all the case in the Shogun fight, cause it was clear as day that Shogun did not gas from that knee, cause like I told you before he was the same fighter after. The grappling exchange did it!

I really hope you still don't believe that this was the real Shogun limba..
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It is limba, but Rashad was more danzed then gasses there. He didn't knew where he was.

You don't automatically gas out, you just lose your senses from being punched hard. He started doing the spanky leg or how is it called..


However that wasn't at all the case in the Shogun fight, cause it was clear as day that Shogun did not gas from that knee, cause like I told you before he was the same fighter after. The grappling exchange did it!

I really hope you still don't believe that this was the real Shogun limba..
My point is and always will be: when you get hit, you tend to lose it and even gas. And if one fighter gets rocked and then gasses, this normally applies to other fighters also. Especially when getting hit tagged, time and time again like Shogun. Whether that was the real Shogun or not, we will never know. I tend to think the truth is somewhere in the middle. I hope i'm gonna see Jones vs Shogun 2 one day.

But..back on topic: i don't believe Evans is a cardio machine. Like Mck said: GSP, Cain, Guida, Diaz, Diego, Fitch - those are cardio machines.

Rashad has medium cardio imo.

And i have Davis beating him by UD.
It's gonna be a wrestling match. This fight will look like BJ vs Fitch - but not as technical and with less BJJ involved.

If Evans loses this - he is done at LHW.
Might as well get ready for the MW division...

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I didn't say Evans is a cardio machine, I just reckon he can make the fight more tiresome for Davis than himself. He can put Davis against the cage, put him on his back, really frustrate him.

But of course, the inactivity of Evans and regular activity of Davis does make this fight more even.

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I didn't say Evans is a cardio machine, I just reckon he can make the fight more tiresome for Davis than himself. He can put Davis against the cage, put him on his back, really frustrate him.

But of course, the inactivity of Evans and regular activity of Davis does make this fight more even.
Bobby said Evans is a cardio machine.


I'm curious to see how Evans can handle a great wrestler.
Because, let's be honest who was the last great wrestler he has faced?!
I would say it was Tito Ortiz, 4 years ago. And the fight was a draw.

Of course, Davis will have the same *problems*.

But i can see Davis holding his own a winning a close UD in the end. He's bigger, faster and stronger, when it comes to doing his shoots.

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Davis is so much faster in all aspects than Rashad that it's going to be laughable come fight time. He can shoot for a clinch throw, change to a double, switch to a single faster than Rashad can tweak his nipples.



The size difference will be pretty considerable as well.

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Rashad's cardio is underrated these days. Much like his other abilities. Whoever said he gassed in his last two fights really needs to understand the difference between gassing and being hurt. In the Thiago Silva fight he set a very high pace from the get go and completely outgrappled the bigger Silva for a good 15 mins. After Rashad got rocked, he started talking to himself to regain his composure, hence why some may have saw is mouth open a little bit towards the end of the fight. He was in no way gassed. Was he maybe a lil tired? Probably, most fighters are by the end of the 3rd round, specially wrestlers. But was he tired to the point where he couldn't continue at a decent pace?? Hell ******* ******* no.

The Rampage fight is probably the best we have ever seen Rashad from a cardio stand point. Man could've went 5 rounds in tha fight if he wanted to. Please somebody tell me where he started to gas? Because unless i'm as blind as a bat, Rashad looked like an energiser bunny vs Rampage. He was breathing through his nose towards the end of the round, still had his hands up and was able to jump in and out of strikes with ease. All this at the end of the 3rd round...what's the evidence of him gassing there??

Anyways, unfortunately for Davis, Rashad's on a mission right now to end the reign of Bones. I respect Davis for taking on a tall order but Rashad is too complete a fighter these days for Davis to just go out and man handle. Davis won't dictate where the fight takes place this timebut his athleticism and strength may still give Rashad problem and make it a competitive fight. I expect Rashad to keep it standing and either strike to a uanimous decision witha a few TD's of his own. After that, Bones will have to step up.

You guys noticed a lot of newly crowned champs seem to get injured after their title win? Shogun after Machida, Cain after Lesnar and now Bones after Shogun. Champ curse I say..
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Davis is so much faster in all aspects than Rashad that it's going to be laughable come fight time. He can shoot for a clinch throw, change to a double, switch to a single faster than Rashad can tweak his nipples.



The size difference will be pretty considerable as well.

Davis is fast. Very fast. But I don't think the speed difference will be as significant as you suggest. Rashad is as fast a LHW as they come. In terms of shooting for TD's, Davis may be SLIGHTLY better. But I bet in the striking exchanges it will be the other way round. Rashad's comfortable striking and very loose whereas sometimes it seems Davis is tensing up and he has yet to be 100% comfortable with throwing strikes the way he can shoot. I guess that will come with experience, but don't be surprised to see Rashad beat Davis to the punch on most striking exchanges.
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I don't disagree Dark Knight. One thing I want to add is, if Rashad convincingly beats Davis then I'd bet a lot on him beating Jones as well.

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Sorry meant to say slightly *faster instead of better. Yeah man, beating Davis will give Rashad a lot of momentum going into the Jones fight and maybe the odds won't be so lopsided. But at the same time I can't see Rashad devasting Davis. I think he'll beat him, but it won't be the most convincing victory just due to Davis' potential. Still, as long as Bones Jones has nightmares about his great fall from grace, i'll be satisfied either way.
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