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Lol at Dana cutting Machida if he some how loses... Thats funny if people believe that... But it saw Machida win the fight against Rampage and he was winning against Shogun on there last fight till he got KO'ed which obviously makes how good he did fly out the window but i know what Machida is capable of

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Cutting Machida would be great for MMA....

Henderson vs Machida
Mousasi vs Machida
King Mo vs Machida
Cavalcante vs Machida

Those fights look a hell of a lot better and more interesting to me than a rematch with Jackson or Griffin or Jones.
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Cutting Machida would be great for MMA....

Henderson vs Machida
Mousasi vs Machida
King Mo vs Machida
Cavalcante vs Machida

Those fights look a hell of a lot better and more interesting to me than a rematch with Jackson or Griffin or Jones.

Yeah i guess i never looked at it like if they lose Machida there not really losing him because they own every MMA organization..... But i still dont think they will

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I didnt see his style change a whole lot.......

Im not hating but he still has his elusive style , he still likes to pick his attacks and doesnt go all guns blazing very often.

what happened in the Shogun fight could happen to anybody , one guy is throwing hell for leather he could hit you with one at any time and its lights out. The 1st Shogun fight was close and he didnt actually get Machida with the BIG SHOT.

The Rampage fight he was doing everything the same again and in my eyes he won the fight due to landing better strikes.

Im not seeing how MONEY messed with him.
I can see how his style changed. He went from being "I'm elusive until I knock you the **** out" to "I'm elusive and I don't want to get hit ever so I'm just going to keep being elusive."

And as far as him getting cut goes, it's not going to happen. He may get sent to strike force though

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I've been saying this for a while now and I'm glad Dana agrees ... money totally changed Machida.

I could literally see the stars in his eyes when the cameras started flashing on him with the UFC gold, and the blonde bimbos lined up next to him for pictures in the clubs. At that moment he looked like Lyoto the star more than Lyoto the fighter.

I think Machida's father hinted at something similar too when he said he thought Lyoto should retire now. I suspect he saw the fame going to Lyoto's head as well.

I agree with Dana that this doesn't look like the same guy at all that won the belt. Usually I hate the "it all depends on which so-and-so shows up tonight" kinda crap excuses, but this really is a different fighter IMO. Mentally much weaker.

Which is why I give Randy a good chance of winning this ... except recent interviews indicate Randy is just as mentally weak nowadays and in retirement mode.

So my prediction is basically a boring ass fight between two off-prime play-it-safers (the Randy from the Vera fight vs the Machida from the last 2 fights), with the win going to the slightly less weak fighter.

Hopefully a GSP-shields war will save the night.
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I can see how his style changed. He went from being "I'm elusive until I knock you the **** out" to "I'm elusive and I don't want to get hit ever so I'm just going to keep being elusive."

And as far as him getting cut goes, it's not going to happen. He may get sent to strike force though
Exactly, but i still dont see him getting cut, and Machida is going out for blood and isn't worried about that 1 shot KO, Machida is going out guns blazing

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you two will probably never understand in a million times why Lyoto fought like he did against Rampage.. he even explained it multible times lol
Care to share why your fantastical-unbeatable-man-crush looked like shit in his past two fights then? Yet again you're trying to fight fire with wood.

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Care to share why your fantastical-unbeatable-man-crush looked like shit in his past two fights then? Yet again you're trying to fight fire with wood.

If you understood fighting id prob be a little offended, but this comment proves otherwise *Troll Alert*

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I know enough about fighting to see that the reason for Lyoto's recent decline is most likely a combination of his over-complacent moment of fame, being given an undeserved win, then being knocked out and becoming gun shy.

But I've argued with you Machida nuts enough to know that there is no good debate to be had here, just neg reps and being called a troll so tata.

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I know enough about fighting to see that the reason for Lyoto's recent decline is most likely a combination of his over-complacent moment of fame, being given an undeserved win, then being knocked out and becoming gun shy.

But I've argued with you Machida nuts enough to know that there is no good debate to be had here, just neg reps and being called a troll so tata.
Troll *Cough*

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