Originally Posted by KillerShark1985
His striking is his only A class attribute imo, his movement sucks, clinch can't recall seeing much of it but you can't just assume its going to be any good it an unknown, TD's are good, not world class but no a weak part of this skill set, Ground game ok could do with seeing more of it before casting real judgment but first impressions "what a let down".
You need more than just elite level striking to be considered P4P top level these days, and he has not proved that, I would compare him in many ways to Shogun but I think Shogun back in Pride was much superior on a P4P scale, I think you know how I rated Shogun now even after the victory over Machida, I think you know I never considered him the No.1 LHW and in fact believed he would fall short to a number of current top LWH's well on a P4P scale comparison right now thats how I rate Aldo against other P4P top rated fighters.
I have been borderline on him before, thinking we really need to see more of his skill set before we can make a credible shout for a P4P top class rating, but all we saw at UFC 129 was his elite striking only been fractionally above another top striker, when you think Silva you see striking miles ahead of other elite strikers hence why the P4P status swings in his favor, Aldo does not share than dominance, so unlike Silva his striking alone wont seal his top P4P status.
But still he has a level of striking that could put him in the P4P top list on a MMA scale if the rest of his game is equal to making him an elite all round fighter, and the other day he fell well short of showing that.
I believe Edgar is quicker, has better movement, better wrestling and could take Aldo down and smash him up to a decision or sub him. I think Penn is still P4P a better fighter than Aldo easily.
Aldo's movement is excellent. His movement and timing are both excellent. The other night, Jose displayed some of the finest head movement I have seen in MMA yet. He doesn't have to be world class in every aspect of MMA to be considered a p4p great. You have to bare in mind the fact that he was ill for this fight and I'd say, around 65 percent healthy for the fight. This is no excuse, he looked notably off form the other night and clearly wasn't his usual self, yet he was still impressive. I agree about his ground game, it was underwhelming and I wasn't impressed.
I don't know why you never considered Shogun a truly great fighter, because he was. Probably to date, the greatest LHW fighter there has ever been.
You're right about the Anderson/Aldo comparison. He's obviously not on Spiders level when it comes to the striking, but I don't think that this means he can never be a p4p great and I don't think Edgar would beat him.
I think he has much better striking than Edgar (who was almost out boxed and KO'd by Gray Maynard of all people). He's the better, more diverse striker and I believe the quicker one. His TDD is some of the very best in MMA. Edgar would have a very hard time time taking Aldo down and keeping him down. In the fifth round of the Hominick fight, Aldo was on the brink of exhaustion, I don't think it's fair to criticise and judge his TDD and scrambling ability based on that round alone, when it has consistently looked amazing.
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