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post #11 of 72 (permalink) Old 05-04-2011, 01:57 AM
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GSP looked pretty huge man, but his right overhand was pretty slow. Think it might have been his depth perception when his left eye got damaged. Although I enjoyed it when GSP threw Jake down like a rag doll. GSP needs KO power then he's good to go for MW.
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silva has palhares,falcao,santiago,stann,sonnen rematch,bisping and maybe lombard if he ever signs with the ufc. he has plenty.
gsp has diaz,story,ellnburger,macdonald,condit and rocha if he gets better stand up.


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GSP is like Bruce Lee at 170. He should never change weight class.
I just want to see him fight Silva at a catchweight, 177.5 lbs if possible. After that Silva and GSP can go back to their divisions.
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Like I've said in other threads, this fight was never going to happen. All it's taken is for GSP to win a majorly hyped fight against Shields by just pawing his way to victory against a bad striker, and his trainers have finally thought 'sod it, we're not comfortable putting him in with Silva, he's starting to not look good by not finishing WW fights, let's knock this one on the head.'

The weight thing isn't a mere excuse anyway, they are not similar enough in size/natural weight. If they fought, one of them would not be in optimal condition, which is the last thing you want in a 'superfight'.

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Like I've said in other threads, this fight was never going to happen. All it's taken is for GSP to win a majorly hyped fight against Shields by just pawing his way to victory against a bad striker, and his trainers have finally thought 'sod it, we're not comfortable putting him in with Silva, he's starting to not look good by not finishing WW fights, let's knock this one on the head.'

The weight thing isn't a mere excuse anyway, they are not similar enough in size/natural weight. If they fought, one of them would not be in optimal condition, which is the last thing you want in a 'superfight'.
Silva dances around when weighing in at over 180. Imagine he had to drop more weight? He'd be floating on air meanwhile GSP will be walking around feeling like a sumo wrestler, totally ruining his explosive takedowns. It would be a total mismatch, and, even light as a feather, Silva would pick GSP apart.
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silva has palhares,falcao,santiago,stann,sonnen rematch,bisping and maybe lombard if he ever signs with the ufc. he has plenty.
gsp has diaz,story,ellnburger,macdonald,condit and rocha if he gets better stand up.
IMO in reality all that means is they both have an endless lineup of meaningless fringe top tenners where two new ones will sprout up for every one they defeat.

I don't think any of these fringe contenders have much hope of getting past the real top 5 contenders that have been tooled by the champ, let alone the champ himself. They bring nothing new that the champ hasn't already faced.

I mean what Diaz got taken out of the UFC by the likes Sanchez and Karo and has zero wrestling or TDD so will probably get taken down and tooled all night by GSP.

Take away his strikeforce belt, and he has no reason to be fighting a guy he has no chance beating. Diaz, Condit, Ellenberger, Story and Rocha would never get past the likes of Fitch, Shields, Koscheck or BJ let alone GSP. All of them have lost to those guys or someone at that level i.e. true top 5s. The only reason they're being considered is because GSP has cleaned out all other top WW fighters.

Same with Andy ... Santiago got tooled by the likes of Leben, Bisping and Palhares by Hendo etc. ... they offer zero challenge to the top contenders like Hendo/Okami/Sonnen let alone Andy. And Stann is just a slow brawler like Forrest, Leben and Cote that has no chance against Silva and brings nothing new to the table.

IMO The only matchup on your list that actually poses a threat to the champ is the Sonnen rematch. But with all the controversies surrounding that guy, it'll be a long time before something can be arranged again there if ever. Other than that, Okami is the last somewhat dangerous opponent left for Anderson, after that it's cleaned out unless they can bring over Lombard.

This superfight needs to happen, MW or catchweight. Otherwise it's obvious neither of these guys are in any danger to losing to the fringe contenders and will go to retirement fighting bored with one hand.
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LOL what have you been smoking? do you seriously think GSP is better than Anderson Silva or Jon Jones?
If GSP is soo good, why can't he finish fights like other UFC champions? maybe cos he doesn't have phenomenal striking or submission skills.
I want the Super Fight(Anderson Silva vs GSP), its long overdue only cos GSP is avoiding it.. GSP is so overrated, boring and biggest chicken in UFC.
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I know what I'm talking about. I do think GSP can beat every middle weight. Anderson Silva isn't even one he has to worry too much about. It's guys like Okami and Sonnen he needs to worry about. Bigger stronger wrestlers would be the ones who threaten him most.

In LHW GSP can still beat plenty of them. "WHAT! Even though the fighter is smaller he can still win!?"

Yes he can. GSP would beat all the LHW's who were bad wrestlers. He would take them down very easily and and win by submission or decision. Don't you guys think he would beat guys like Houston Alexander, Bonner, Thiago Silva, probably even Randy Couture and Shogun? I know I do.

And for the HW's... He would beat Kongo at least. There's plenty of HW's he would beat by taking them down over and over and outscoring on the feet. I think he actually matches up very well against Big Nog. He's big, slow, and has bad stand up. GSP would outscore him on the feet for sure. I don't think he would be able to take GSP down, but GSP could take him down. That may be a bad Idea though.

So that's what I think. I don't feel like checking this thread a ton so if you agree with me then back me up.
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I agree with Zahabi, mainly because he knows GSP better than eveyone here on this board.

And secondly, because GSP is the type of person who is bulking up by constantly adding muscle mass to his frame, not just any kind of mass.

Although muscle mass makes you stronger/gives you more stregth, this comes at a price:

1. you become stiffer, more rigid - and that affects you movements in the ring, it affects the way you throw punches and the way you shoot for the takedowns.
Basically: muscle strength kills speed/explossiveness.

2. more muscle mass needs more oxygen. Basically, carrying all that extra muscle mass on your frame while fighting at the same time ... or doing any kind of high intensity physical exercise, will force your body to work harder, by consuming more oxygen, in order to perform at a high level.
That means, GSP would have to imporve his cardio/conditioning even more.
And he already is the best conditioned athlete at WW in the UFC at least. Going beyond this would be much harder.

With that being said, i believe GSP at this weight ~192 lbs, would be a relatively small MW, but still he would beat most of the fighters at 185, thanks to his superior technique and skill set.

But i believe he would have problems against the lieks of Sonnen and Okami, guys who are bigger than him, 205+ lbs on fight night, and have a style that could shut down many of GSP's advantages.

I believe GSP stays at WW for at least 2 more years.
Still some decent fights for him here...

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I agree with Zahabi, mainly because he knows GSP better than eveyone here on this board.
Yer and im sure that Zahabi knows that GSP doesn't want to fight Anderson Silva.
If GSP had some balls he would have faced Anderson Silva long time ago.
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I know what I'm talking about. I do think GSP can beat every middle weight. Anderson Silva isn't even one he has to worry too much about.

In LHW GSP can still beat plenty of them.

And for the HW's... He would beat Kongo at least. There's plenty of HW's he would beat by taking them down over and over and outscoring on the feet. I think he actually matches up very well against Big Nog. He's big, slow, and has bad stand up. GSP would outscore him on the feet for sure. I don't think he would be able to take GSP down, but GSP could take him down.
LOL x Googolplex..
I knew this dude was serious, typical GSP nuthuggers think GSP is some kind of God. You have to be dumber than Benny Hinn follower to think GSP is that good.
If GSP is that good, how come he is too scared to face Anderson Silva?

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GSP would beat all the LHW's who were bad wrestlers. He would take them down very easily and and win by submission or decision.
Win by submission? riight.. he couldn't even submit Hardy.
Might as well say GSP can KO all the top HW in the world.
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