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guycanada 05-03-2011 04:41 PM

GSP's trainer :" St. Pierre about as big as he'll get"
 
Zahabi: St. Pierre about as big as he'll get

Zahabi isn't shying away from moving up or the superfight, but doesn't think GSP needs/can get much bigger.

The Haters will hate...



"Georges St. Pierre’s trainer Firas Zahabi isn’t against seeing his star fighter move up a division after his recent sixth straight welterweight title defense. He is, however, against seeing him pack on a ton of weight to do it.

According to Zahabi, St. Pierre (22-2) has probably added all the muscle his 5-foot-10 frame can athletically carry. If St. Pierre decides to vacate the 170-pound title and compete at 185, Zahabi says he’ll encourage him to remain close to the weight he is now.

“He’ll be very small for a middleweight,” Zahabi told ESPN.com. “If I balloon him up to over 200 pounds, it won’t do any good. There’s a point where you can have too much muscle and it’s not a good thing. I think he’s got the maximum amount you can put on his body without it starting to be detrimental.

“If he goes up [to 185], I would recommend he stay the same size. You don’t want Georges to go in there bulked up and unable to perform in the mechanical way that he does.”

Prior to his fight against Jake Shields at UFC 129, St. Pierre's camp said its target was for him to rehydrate 22 pounds, to an in-cage weight between 192 and 193 pound.

Another reason to not add a ton of muscle is it would be tedious weight for St. Pierre to shed if he ever chose to move back down. Zahabi did note, however, that in a proposed fight against Anderson Silva, he’d experiment adding as much as 10 pounds to St. Pierre to help keep the lengthy Brazilian down.

“I’d probably push him up to 200 pounds for that fight,” Zahabi said. “He still wouldn’t be as big as Anderson and it wouldn’t be natural, but it would be better. If you do get on Anderson Silva, having an extra pounds on you is a good extra 10 pounds.”

St. Pierre wouldn’t be the first to forfeit size in an effort to move up divisions. Notably, the only two fighters to ever hold titles at multiple weights did it. B.J. Penn has regularly weighed in under 170 pounds as a welterweight -- as little as 166.5 at UFC 63. Randy Couture weighed in nearly 40 pounds less than Tim Sylvia at UFC 68 when he recaptured the heavyweight title.

The move to middleweight for St. Pierre is far from official. A super-fight between he and Silva has been talked about in the media for years, but UFC president Dana White continues to refer to it as “a fantasy fight.”

Zahabi says his hope for St. Pierre’s next challenge is Strikeforce champion Nick Diaz, but denied any notion the camp is shying away from a Silva fight. If the Silva fight does happen, though, Zahabi believes it would work best as a catchweight fight.

“It’s up to Zuffa and George’s management to decide that. I’ll focus on preparing him,” Zahabi said. “But I think it would be wiser to be at a catchweight because it would be more fair.”

In regards to Diaz, Zahabi believes the Strikeforce champ has earned a shot at St. Pierre and is an intriguing matchup, stylistically.

“He’s proven himself, especially in his last fight [against Paul Daley], a really exciting fight,” Zahabi said. “He’s got a long reach and he knows how to use it. He probably has a longer reach than Georges. I haven’t measured it myself and you never know with the fluctuations in reach stats.

“He’s got a very good pitter-patter style and he’s hard to counter. Georges has never faced a guy like that.”"

diablo5597 05-03-2011 09:45 PM

GSP would beat every MW at his current weight in my opinion. He would also beat most of the LHW's and even some of the HW's with his current weight. People don't understand how good he is.

HD209458B 05-03-2011 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by diablo5597 (Post 1407867)
GSP would beat every MW at his current weight in my opinion. He would also beat most of the LHW's and even some of the HW's with his current weight. People don't understand how good he is.

LOL what have you been smoking? do you seriously think GSP is better than Anderson Silva or Jon Jones? :confused02:
If GSP is soo good, why can't he finish fights like other UFC champions? maybe cos he doesn't have phenomenal striking or submission skills.
I want the Super Fight(Anderson Silva vs GSP), its long overdue only cos GSP is avoiding it.. GSP is so overrated, boring and biggest chicken in UFC.

Steroid Steve 05-03-2011 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diablo5597 (Post 1407867)
GSP would beat every MW at his current weight in my opinion. He would also beat most of the LHW's and even some of the HW's with his current weight. People don't understand how good he is.

smh... Come on, man...

Dtwizzy2k5 05-03-2011 11:41 PM

I want to see the superfight but it's never going to happen. If it did though, I agree it should be at a catchweight so as to not only be fair but to avoid tying up two belts by one person if GSP were to win. Realistically I expect Anderson to go ahead and fight Okami followed by guys like Bisping, Akiyama, and Sonnen again. That should keep him busy until next year.
As for GSP they will probably give him Nick Diaz at some point along with guys like Condit, Stun Gun, and maybe even Rory Macdonald at some point.
If the UFC really wanted to make GSP-Silva happen, they would have by now.

Sekou 05-03-2011 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diablo5597 (Post 1407867)
GSP would beat every MW at his current weight in my opinion. He would also beat most of the LHW's and even some of the HW's with his current weight. People don't understand how good he is.


LOL....calm down there, little trooper....:confused03:

ACTAFOOL 05-03-2011 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sekou (Post 1407909)
LOL....calm down there, little trooper....:confused03:

HA...yeah ive almost lost hope in this fight...actually i think they will do a catch weight...wich is what i always prefered, i think its much more fair since neither figher has to put the belt on the line...i just wonder if the cut will be too much for andy, he says it wont but at his age cutting down to 178 from 210? not easy man...but interesting:)

No_Mercy 05-04-2011 12:42 AM

Hahha...that was an awesome comment about GSP beating all the MWs and especially the LHW.

Jokes aside Firaz is one smart dude. I believe Nick Diaz and Okami is it. They beat both of em then it's TIME to do the match up. GSP did not look like he was excited at all about the prospect of facing Anderson Silva...lolz! None whatsoever. Anderson however is ready. GSP is da bomb, however with Anderson Silva you're dealing with a KILLER.

Fine Wine 05-04-2011 01:28 AM

I agree, there is no way GSP can stack on more muscle, he already looks slow and stiff in his stand-up at the size he is. If anything, he needs to tone down the upper body weights and losen up a bit.

He could fight at middle, but it just means he won't be cutting and simply fighting at his training weight where he will still be a lot stronger than most guys but obviously it won't be his optimal weight.

Seems like a fight with Diaz, perhaps Condit etc are still left for GSP, even Anthony Johnson if he beats Nate Marquadt.

But Silva has absolutely nothing left. Maybe Mark Munoz? Other than that, Dana needs to bring in Lombard or see if Jacare wants to fight his team-mate.

meli083 05-04-2011 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diablo5597 (Post 1407867)
GSP would beat every MW at his current weight in my opinion. He would also beat most of the LHW's and even some of the HW's with his current weight. People don't understand how good he is.

Funniest thing I've heard all day.


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