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post #11 of 141 (permalink) Old 05-03-2011, 07:37 PM
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lol, reminds me of Don King..
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I think Segal is more of a coach then a fraud, he has been studying MMA disciplines for a long time, and could possibly help is certain aspects regarding your technique. What is Segal getting out of this if he is a fraud? certainly its not publicity. Most of the general MMA fanbase has known or seen Segal movies, so he won't be selling any DVDs anytime soon because he is related to blackhouse.
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i think it's like the joke where Jimmy Kimmle bumps Matt Damon at the en of shows; kind o an in joke with your friend.

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Assuming the fact that he is an actual master, and the first American to be allowed to run an Aikido dojo in Japan, I'm fairly sure he's not a fraud. Just because he's a fat actor now, doesn't mean he wasn't, or isn't, a serious Martial Artist. Any of you nobodies that thinks he's a fraud need to GTFO.
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I think he's more of a guru than a coach or anything else. He's been in the martial arts since before any of the UFC's fighters were born, he's learned a few things over the years so there's little tips & stuff here & there that he can pass on to fighters.

Watch this video again of his advice to Machida before the Rampage fight. He was dead right. Don't hang out in the clinch, GTFO of there. Then watch the sequence earlier on showing how to avoid the Shogun bezerker charge. The man knows what he's talking about.

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LOL some interesing facts of Steven Segal.
http://world-famous-people.blogspot....en-seagal.html
http://paunchstevenson.com/2007/08/20/steven-seagal/

I thought maybe he paid Anderson Silva money so he can act like he trained no1 p4p in the world. But he can teach aikido to UFC fighters since he is an aikido expert.
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Assuming the fact that he is an actual master, and the first American to be allowed to run an Aikido dojo in Japan, I'm fairly sure he's not a fraud. Just because he's a fat actor now, doesn't mean he wasn't, or isn't, a serious Martial Artist. Any of you nobodies that thinks he's a fraud need to GTFO.
...My thoughts exactly. I'd just say wiki him. He's the real deal. Even though it's the movies he uses that frontkick, it's in almost every film of his. The high level skill sets of Anderson & Lyoto pulling off nearly back to back frontkick KO's cannot be denied or blown off as a coincidence. Either he gives a certain signal or a certin timing, there is no denying he had something to do with it. If it happened just once people can make an arguement but twice? I don't think so...
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I don't think he's a fraud, as he is genuinely a skilled martial artist after all. 7th Dan in Aikido means he has serious skills, and while his personality leaves a lot to be desired I still think he is actually teaching Blackhouse members. He was teaching them before the two recent KOs, so maybe they are milking the knockouts, seeing as Segal was already on board. It makes sense to ride the hype train. He did help them after all, regardless of whether he showed them those moves.
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I don't know why people bust his balls so much. Segal clearly knows what he's talking about, so he isn't a fraud. The way I see it, it's like when a fighter trains at a different camp (GSP and Edgar trained at Renzo Gracie's recently) or spars with different people (Phil Davis sparred with Shields).

Do we know if Segal's bringing something new to the table? Obviously not since we don't know what he's teaching them and what they already know. However, I think it's safe to assume he is, because he's a master of a different discipline. Similar or not, there will be differences.
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