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post #1 of 141 (permalink) Old 05-03-2011, 07:23 PM Thread Starter
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Steven SeAgal: Coach or Fraud?

I personally think Steven Segal is loony, and don't think he's a fighter, but either way, with both Anderson and Lyoto giving him credit after their fights, does he deserve some credit as a coach or is he a total fraud?
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I originally was leaning towards looney based on his post-fight interviews but Silva and Machida both gave him credit after the win so theres not much to argue with that.
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while I think the whole things is somewhat entertaining,

I think Blackhouse is using Segal's celebrity and cult-like status to gain more main-stream attention and gain the casual fan.

Most of the fighter's out of the camp speak poor english, so have a harder time connecting with the general audience. I do give Silva credit for skipping the translator more and more at the Q and A with the champions, he was very "fan friendly"
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That's sort of how my thinking went, too.

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I originally was leaning towards looney based on his post-fight interviews but Silva and Machida both gave him credit after the win so theres not much to argue with that.
That's sort of how my thinking went, too.

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I originally was leaning towards looney based on his post-fight interviews but Silva and Machida both gave him credit after the win so theres not much to argue with that.
There's no telling that IMO, only the guy's themselves know the truth.

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Segal is a huge star in foreign countries. It's not surprising that Black House is associated with him. It brings a lot of attention to their camp.

That being said, Segal definitely knows his stuff. He's probably not teaching them anything they didn't already know but he's surely no fraud.
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Well, Segal has a black belt in aikido, which is as far as I know, a grappling martial art. So, I don't see how he could teach some useful things to lyoto and anderson. But, who knows, maybe he's the new MMA genius coach.
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I have seen footage of Seagal teaching Anderson and Lyoto some adjustments on the style of the front kick, this took place prior to their fights. Seagal is massivly respected in his art and is certainly no fraud. Remember this, Anderson and Lyoto approached HIM for his advice, not the other way around. If this is just a publicity stunt then Anderson and Lyoto are the frauds, NOT Seagal. Seagal obviosly does not regard himself as a joke or a fraud and will be teaching them genuine techniques.

At the end of the day, the technique that Seagal has imparted to them has resulted in not only 2 of the sickest KO's ever, but the first 2 KO's from a front kick in UFC history. That is more than just a crazy coincidence.

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This is coming from a Van Damme fan
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Yeah, Steven is just one of those stalker dudes who wants attention for some minor tweaks he gave advice for, we dont even know if they did any good or if Anderson and Machida are just being humble and giving him some credit for being their.
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There's no telling that IMO, only the guy's themselves know the truth.
Yep..
I don't buy it but I think its good for MMA so more power to them..
I dont think he is a fraud, I dont think he will show anyone anything they dont already know but he might show them how to adjust or change it up a little..
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