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View Poll Results: GSP = Best P4P
Yes. GSP is the Best P4P! GSP GSP GSP!!! (and i also believe in Benny Hinn) 36 41.38%
No. GSP doesn't have phenomenal striking or submission skills to finish fights. 51 58.62%
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post #11 of 121 (permalink) Old 05-05-2011, 12:29 AM
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Both poll options are ridiculous.

Anyways A. Silva is number one. GSP is second. However, I think that if both remain in their respective divisions AS will lose first.


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I think Anderson Silva has shown more weakness in getting his ass dominated for 20 minutes by Sonnen than GSP has. Silva has also lost the first round to both Hendo and Lutter as well as losing the last round to Maia. Silva has looked human, GSP has dominated.
Did you notice how confident Anderson Silva looked in round 4 n 5 of Sonnen fight despite poor first 3 rounds? (lets not forget this wasn't normal Sonnen but on steroids)
I think AS was unlucky on that fight but he still won and finished the fight, and even Dana called his performance legendary.
AS clearly finished Hendo, and way he performed against Maia in round 1 n 2 was like watching Matrix.

GSP couldn't even finish Hardy, in fact Hardy looked identical in post fight interview as he did in pre fight interview thanks to GSP great submission skills.
Sure he is great at taking people down, and good at playing "Safe".. he even took Kos down with about minute left on 5th round.
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Definitely Anderson.
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I don't want to add anything but this: Maia was NOT "outclassed" in the Silva fight, if Silva had been a badass and tried to actually BEAT Maia he could have ended up being submitted.


Saying Silva outclassed Maia in that fight and that's why he acted the way he did, is like saying GSP outclassed Shields on the ground so bad and that's why he didn't take him down more.
Come on Khov, Maia was trying to get knocked out in that fight it was so embarrassing. The guy was throwing so recklessly by the end even Chris Leben was wondering what the F*** he was thinking. Anderson made his face look like Hamburger. Anderson made it clear that Maia couldn't take him down and yet refused to put him away regardless.

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Anderson Silva already fought larger fighters(two LHWs) like any other MMA/UFC legends. But GSP haven't faced any larger fighter despite the face that he always say he is the or wants to be the best p4p in the world, and he is a Big WW. Silva said he is willing to cut down to 170 to face GSP, and GSP said(iirc) he is not scared to face MW/LHW and since they'll be fighting at same weight i don't see any disadvantage for GSP. GSP fans think GSP can beat anyone anyway..
Brock Lesnar can say he is willing to cut down to FW to dethrone Jose Aldo that doesn't mean its real. Talk is cheap and if Anderson Silva is so eager to cut down to WW why hasn't he done it? Why because he physically is not capable anymore.

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Did you notice how confident Anderson Silva looked in round 4 n 5 of Sonnen fight despite poor first 3 rounds? (lets not forget this wasn't normal Sonnen but on steroids)
I think AS was unlucky on that fight but he still won and finished the fight, and even Dana called his performance legendary.
AS clearly finished Hendo, and way he performed against Maia in round 1 n 2 was like watching Matrix.

GSP couldn't even finish Hardy, in fact Hardy looked identical in post fight interview as he did in pre fight interview thanks to GSP great submission skills.
Sure he is great at taking people down, and good at playing "Safe".. he even took Kos down with about minute left on 5th round.
Chael Sonnen was unlucky. Anderson being unlucky does not explain Sonnen taking him down with ease and dominating 4 rounds. GSP can say he was unlucky when he fought Serra. Silva didn't get caught, that is skill not luck when you do what Sonnen did for 20 minutes.

Your right about one thing though, Hardy looked the same before and after, he didn't have a belt at either time.




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My P4P top 5
1. Silva
2. GSP
3. Aldo
4. Melendez
5. Edgar

I believe that rule of: you are considered a true champion if you have at least defended once. Thats why Cain (7) and Jon Jones (6) is not in my Top 5. But if GSP beats Nick Diaz next it would be very debatable if GSP is not #1. I mean his last 3 opponents would be: Koscheck, Shields, Diaz. I think thats a better list than Sonnen, Belfort, Okami (no disrespect). GSP would single handily prove that StrikeForce is lower tier by beating two of their more dominant Champions in two "Superfights". Their is a point where smashing opponents doesent give you extra points anymore considering the quality of opponents faced.
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Anderson, hands down.

If this is all based on who the baddest fighter p4p is, you have to finish the fight. If you don't finish a fight, you leave opportunity for the opponent to win. If you finish, well, you are no longer in danger. Anderson would kill anyone he fights, while GSP may get killed over time. That's my drastic way of looking at it.

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Anderson, hands down.

If this is all based on who the baddest fighter p4p is, you have to finish the fight. If you don't finish a fight, you leave opportunity for the opponent to win. If you finish, well, you are no longer in danger. Anderson would kill anyone he fights, while GSP may get killed over time. That's my drastic way of looking at it.
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Why doesn't Anderson Silva want to go up in weight and fight JBJ? What about Anderson "playing it safe" against Maia and Leites? Both of which were horribly outclassed more so than anybody GSP has ever fought.

Anderson Silva isn't a little bigger he is a huge 185lber the guy walks around probably a good 30lbs bigger than GSP.
mi' lord maybe he is already satisfied in mw ..lyoto is there in lhw also lil nog.hes also growing old now.its good to finish his career as a mw champ (i hope so).

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It's close for me, and i'm an admitted GSP nuthugger. I'm going with Silva though.

He's 13-0 in the UFC, which is just ridiculous. GSP is a fairly close second.
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I think Anderson Silva has shown more weakness in getting his ass dominated for 20 minutes by Sonnen than GSP has. Silva has also lost the first round to both Hendo and Lutter as well as losing the last round to Maia. Silva has looked human, GSP has dominated.
What about the fact that GSP has lost and AS hasn't?
Ask anybody and they would say that a guy who has never lost in the ufc is more dominant than a guy who has lost 2 times

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