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Old 05-07-2011, 09:46 AM   #41 (permalink)
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If $$$ wasnt the reason then what was it? and what was the offer?
I don't think Dana would have offered enough since $1.84mil was the total fighter salaries for UFC 129, which was the largest UFC event and its 2011 now.
Fedor Emelianenko Turns Down Three-Fight UFC Contract

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7/30/2009 2:01 PM ET By Ariel Helwani

Fedor Emelianenko said on Wednesday that he does not intend to sign a contract with the Ultimate Fighting Championship unless the UFC agrees to promote fights jointly with Emelianenko's promoter, M-1 Global. Since then, several Web sites have reported that Emelianenko had turned down a six-fight contract with the UFC worth $30 million.

FanHouse has learned from a source close to the negotiations, who wished to remain anonymous, that the UFC offered Emelianenko a three-fight contract with a guarantee of less than $2 million per fight.

The source did confirm that Emelianenko was offered an immediate title shot against current UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar.

As Jonathan Snowden, the author of 'Total MMA: Inside Ultimate Fighting,' who also spoke to someone with knowledge of the negotiations, pointed out, it is possible that Emelianenko could make up to or even more than $30 million during his UFC run, but that amount wasn't guaranteed up front.

"The number is based on Zuffa's projections of what Fedor's take of the PPV money would be, and the numbers they are projecting are based on selling a ton of PPV's. The actual guarantee for Fedor is much more modest. It's true that if business stays at record levels Fedor could walk away with $30 million. But that is no guarantee."

If the pay-per-views in which Emelianenko main events do as well as, say, UFC 100, which reportedly generated approximately 1.5 million PPV buys, he could conceivably make that much, if not more once the PPV escalators kick in.

Vadim Finkelstein, Emelianenko's manager and M-1 Global's CEO, replied "no" when Sherdog asked if a deal could be struck with the UFC without M-1 co-promoting the event.
The bolded part is the answer to what the issue was.

The fighter salaries released may have been $1.84M, but again, there are both mandatory and discretionary bonuses that may have been or will be paid.

E.g. Randy had this PPV bonus scale in his contract when he tried to leave the UFC in 2007:

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100,000 175,000 buys $1 per buy
175,000 300,000 buys $1.50 per buy
300,000 330,000 buys $2 per buy
330,000 plus buys $3 per buy
If Randy, or GSP, or both, or anyone else has that scale or something similar, the fighter pay goes up quite considerably, wouldn't you say?
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Old 05-07-2011, 10:11 AM   #42 (permalink)
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The bolded part is the answer to what the issue was.
I guess M-1 was offering him better deal. Why would Fedor fight for Strikeforce and not for UFC, IF Dana offered him a better deal?
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<snip> any fighter putting on a good fight will always be rewarded by these guys no matter what it says on the official pay figures. <snip>
As you said, fighters make more money than is reported. The UFC does not have to report full fighter compensation to the athletic commissions, much less the fans. Fighter's total compensation is more than just their salary. Total compensation is the sum of monetary (and non-monetary) variables including salary, event bonuses, show, win-bonuses, Dana White's arbitrary whims and more combine to make the fighter's total compensation.

I will look it up, but I recall some fighters pulling in 7 figures when low six figures was reported. Granted this was someone like Randy and not a Garza.
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Old 05-07-2011, 03:26 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Dana white once said between bonuses and sponsorship that Chuck Liddell was making like 5 million a fight back when Chuck was the man (his numbers only showed 500,000). I find in unlikely that GSP is not making that kind of cash and find it just as unlikely that a guy like Aldo is not breaking a million by the time its over.
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Let's face it. Fans complain about compensation more than fighters.
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I guess M-1 was offering him better deal. Why would Fedor fight for Strikeforce and not for UFC, IF Dana offered him a better deal?
Because SF would co-promote with M-1. So the deal was better for M-1 than the UFC deal. But was it better for Fedor? I don't know. He's a minority owner in M-1, so it would be better for him if the marginal value added to M-1, multiplied by his percentage ownership, exceeded the marginal monetary value of the UFC contract. Or maybe his manager just did what was best for his manager.

But it always looks like there's a considerable conflict of interest when your manager is also your promoter. Those two jobs really are kind of at odds, but M-1 does both for Fedor. In the U.S. it isn't even legal (in boxing nationally, in MMA it's state by state) for your manager to also be your promoter.
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$20k is nothing for a sideline seat at a big event. It's chump change.

Although to be fair it's debatable how many people actually cough it up out of their pockets. Firms will often buy up those seats to put up someone they sponsor in an attempt at free marketing.
I'd certainly love to be one of those guys where $20K is chump change. I could be a really good chump for that kind of change.
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I guess M-1 was offering him better deal. Why would Fedor fight for Strikeforce and not for UFC, IF Dana offered him a better deal?
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Some of these salaries are incredibly low. UFC made 12 million just off the gate.
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Randy's PPV bonus is in no way indicative of the purses of the approximately 300 other athletes on the UFC payroll.

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E.g. Randy had this PPV bonus scale in his contract when he tried to leave the UFC in 2007:



If Randy, or GSP, or both, or anyone else has that scale or something similar, the fighter pay goes up quite considerably, wouldn't you say?
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Randy's PPV bonus is in no way indicative of the purses of the approximately 300 other athletes on the UFC payroll.
No but it is indicative of what the top fighters and draws are making. Obviously the all 20 fighters on a card are not getting PPV %'s but it puts things in perspective.
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