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**SuzukS** · 02-16-2007, 09:38 PM

Shit, after his fight with Rampage all will be answered. Oh, and Chuck is a UFC poster boy no matter which way you slice it. As is(was) Tito and Hughes. The reason is because he is the most popular fighter.

AtomDanger · 02-16-2007, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ricefarmer

chucks' measly 7 wins in a row does not trump wandys 20 wins in a row thats for dam sure. and u say chuck is the champ that proves something? wandy is the grandprix champ of 2003 i think and is current lhw champ in pride. if u gonna argue that tito and randy is quality competition then... ufc marketting has gotten to ur head. any mma fan can deduce that shogun wandy has a much higher probablity of winning..

if he doesn't get passed rampage in their next fight nobody in this god dam forum should ever talk about if chuck can beat wandy ever again.. unless ur a total noob.

and if crocop wins i will not say he's a poster boy or a cash maker because i know who he is idiot. i know how good he is. for u to say that means u dont know shit.

dana white was kickin his own ass when anderson silva won the belt.. because he just lost rich franklin who brings in the dough from fans.. if liddel is lost esp to some foreigner the americans wont like it too much.. dont u people get it??? shit! he right now is the face of the ufc, but i guess they dont care if rampage wins since he's got personaility and can draw lots of fans

20 wins in a row? WTF JACKASS.
Lets look at his loss to cro cop.
his loss in 05 to arona
his loss in 04 to hunt
even lost to tito in 00

He doesnt have 20 wins in a row anywhere on his record.

AtomDanger · 02-16-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ricefarmer

haha yeah american sports always call it the world champions when they only play againts fellow americans.. thats why they got their asses kicked in baseball and even cheated! if american sports call themselves world champs they should at least compete againts the world!

How do fighters in the UFC not fight people from all over the world. Sure it is a lot of americans. It is an american company. But they are getting better, shit.
They have a UFC going on in England, they signed a guy from germany. I think its pretty good and open.
Look at Pride, other than Japanese / Russian and BRazillian who do they fight? just about the same diversity as the UFC.

e-thug · 02-16-2007, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan42

I think you have a good point but I think that its not quite as extreme as you make it out to be. It is relatively reasonable to assume that if someone is a champ in the UFC then they are probably among the top 5 worldwide in their respective weight division, especially if they have held on to it.

Amen to that. Ya cant become a UFC champ without being a top 5

AxleZTTic · 02-17-2007, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AtomDanger

Lets look at his loss to cro cop.
his loss in 05 to arona
his loss in 04 to hunt

now thats quality competition. no shame in losing to any of those fighters. name 3 opponents that chuck has faced EVER, that even come close to those guys.....? ill admit, i love couture, he used to be a beast. so ill give you 1. liddel just doesnt face the same kind of competition in the ufc, sure he dominates the crap outta everyone in it... but if i went into a kindergarden class id dominate the crap outta them too. doesnt mean im the best.

ricefarmer · 02-17-2007, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AxleZTTic

now thats quality competition. no shame in losing to any of those fighters. name 3 opponents that chuck has faced EVER, that even come close to those guys.....? ill admit, i love couture, he used to be a beast. so ill give you 1. liddel just doesnt face the same kind of competition in the ufc, sure he dominates the crap outta everyone in it... but if i went into a kindergarden class id dominate the crap outta them too. doesnt mean im the best.

this atomdanger guy is a complete moron isn't he? wanderlei did win 20 straight wins b4 loosing to MARK HUNT who is a striker far more dangerous then chuck ever will be and crocop who is another deadly striker that chuck never even come close to facing, and arona is top competition.. chuck won 7 fights after rampage for christ sake.. and most are because of gay rematches..

hes the champ of the ufc..so what? and look at those 7 matches. i still wouldn't call him top 5 because of that, he doesn't have competition in the ufc. anyone under tito are all b to c list fighters.. think of the logic u idiot

Barrym · 02-17-2007, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ricefarmer

this atomdanger guy is a complete moron isn't he? wanderlei did win 20 straight wins b4 loosing to MARK HUNT

http://fcfighter.brinkster.net/fight...FighterID=9366

No 20 straight wins listed here! is this list not correct then?

**Wise** · 02-17-2007, 03:30 AM

I think its funny you fail to remember the fights Chuck has won before his 7 fight win streak. Ever heard of fighters by the name of Guy Mezger, Kevin Randleman, Alistair Overeem, and Vitor Belfort(in his prime), . You act like hes been beating scrubs his whole career. Anyone whose seen my posts before will know that I am far from a Chuck Liddel lover and think he would have his hands full with numerous fighters from Pride. But to act like hes just some scrub whose been handed victories is ignorant and nothing short of foolish.