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Old 05-09-2011, 09:58 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Bisping is better at striking than GSP and is naturally bigger , he obviously isnt the favourite but he has chance. plus Evans didnt have it all his own way trying to get Bisping to the mat.
Bisping? Mr. Pillowhands who circled right into the h-bomb from Hendo after his corner told him not to do it? GSP would show his standup the respect it deserves and beat him till he looks like Kos or Fitch.

None of the MW I can think of really have a good shot, I'd say Paul Harris and Wandy have the best chance if they can make 170 without killing themselves. Palhares if he can get it to the ground has the hard & brutal submission skills that are needed to slap something on GSP before he can work free. Wandy would have a chance to KO GSP with his berzerker charges if he can keep the fight standing, he'll have a shot at the start of each round to put GSP on his back foot and take him out.
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Old 05-09-2011, 10:44 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I've really disappointed at how ignorant the people on MMAF have been about GSP vs. Shields. That was an amazing fight, Shields and GSP both put on amazing performances and I was on the edge of my seat.



I'd love to see Maia vs. GSP and if Maia came in ruthless and not timid at all I think he could pull guard on GSP, or get sprawled on and do his signature hip-roll to guard.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:39 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Only MW that can both make 170 and challenge GSP is Silva.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:46 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I've really disappointed at how ignorant the people on MMAF have been about GSP vs. Shields. That was an amazing fight, Shields and GSP both put on amazing performances and I was on the edge of my seat.
What fight was you watching, what exactly did Shields do to amaze you with his performance aside from poke GSP in the eye.

Now don't get me wrong, I can see why GSP was happy to stand there all night long outpointing Shields as he came in with the same 3 strike combo over and over again, can't quite recall what the exact sequence was think it started with a inside leg kick (not sure on that) but it followed with a jab then round kick to the body.

Best thing about it was GSP had it owned with a counter every time to just keep picking away for his points, yet still he never learned and continued to keep trying his pathetic combo. Only time Jake mixed it up was when he poked GSP in the eye, yea that worked out nice GSP never saw that sh1t coming nor had a plan to counter that, Jake should of come out with more of that, was after all the only thing that worked out for him all night, he should of done more of that and try to blind GSP maybe mix it up with a few kicks to the balls see to see how that worked out, better still do the same again only to the other eye, maybe if he was successful in blinding GSP in both eyes then after his combo might of stared to work.

Am sorry but after the second round it was clear that he needed to make big adjustments to his approach else he was just going to get pointed out to a decision, and what do you know he just carried on with the same approach for 5 fcuking rounds and just as every MMA fan watching the fight knew was going to happen after just the first 2 rounds, GSP continued to remain patient countering Jakes's pathetic little combo approach, which Jake was probably using to try and set up a take down, but it was so far off ever been close to successful you would never of fcuking guessed, so no fault here on the account of GSP for just carrying on to win the decision Jake was giving him on a plate.

I bet GSP was thinking to himself, thank you Jake for been so fcuking predictable, I can do this sh1t all night long if you want, YESS!!! money in the bag for me here we go again

Seriously that fight lacked any excitement, if was just a predictable run of repetitive events from start to finish, it was just GSP having the answer to a very simple set of problems (or more accurately a SINGLE simple problem) Jake had set out for him, can't really fault GSP for just continuing doing what he was doing, hell if your opponent is going to keep coming for the same approach and you have a counter for it that is steering you right into an easy decision win then why change it, hell it was Shields who was falling more and more behind and needed to come up with something to at least try to change the way the fight was going.

To put it bluntly Shields sucked in that fight, he lacked heart, the will to win, the ability to adapt, his strategy was hopeless and there was no plan B, he laked the will to throw down and give it his all when the chips where down even when his title hopes where drifting further and further away, They should make a new Epic Fail title just for Jake Shields and make him the current raining Epic Fail champion of the UFC based on that performance, he truly does deserve such a symbol of recognition for the work rate and performance he gave that night.

So again seriously what fight was you watching, did I miss out on some amazing edge of your seat battle between two other guys coincidently named GSP and Jake Shields which you enjoyed so much, while I was to busy roped into watch the pile of sh1t that was been ditched out on the UFC 129 card.

Jake if you happen by any chance to read this, Go back to SF and get your ass subbed by Jacare you fcuking looser.
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What fight was you watching, what exactly did Shields do to amaze you with his performance aside from poke GSP in the eye.

Now don't get me wrong, I can see why GSP was happy to stand there all night long outpointing Shields as he came in with the same 3 strike combo over and over again, can't quite recall what the exact sequence was think it started with a inside leg kick (not sure on that) but it followed with a jab then round kick to the body.

Best thing about it was GSP had it owned with a counter every time to just keep picking away for his points, yet still he never learned and continued to keep trying his pathetic combo. Only time Jake mixed it up was when he poked GSP in the eye, yea that worked out nice GSP never saw that sh1t coming nor had a plan to counter that, Jake should of come out with more of that, was after all the only thing that worked out for him all night, he should of done more of that and try to blind GSP maybe mix it up with a few kicks to the balls see to see how that worked out, better still do the same again only to the other eye, maybe if he was successful in blinding GSP in both eyes then after his combo might of stared to work.

Am sorry but after the second round it was clear that he needed to make big adjustments to his approach else he was just going to get pointed out to a decision, and what do you know he just carried on with the same approach for 5 fcuking rounds and just as every MMA fan watching the fight knew was going to happen after just the first 2 rounds, GSP continued to remain patient countering Jakes's pathetic little combo approach, which Jake was probably using to try and set up a take down, but it was so far off ever been close to successful you would never of fcuking guessed, so no fault here on the account of GSP for just carrying on to win the decision Jake was giving him on a plate.

I bet GSP was thinking to himself, thank you Jake for been so fcuking predictable, I can do this sh1t all night long if you want, YESS!!! money in the bag for me here we go again

Seriously that fight lacked any excitement, if was just a predictable run of repetitive events from start to finish, it was just GSP having the answer to a very simple set of problems (or more accurately a SINGLE simple problem) Jake had set out for him, can't really fault GSP for just continuing doing what he was doing, hell if your opponent is going to keep coming for the same approach and you have a counter for it that is steering you right into an easy decision win then why change it, hell it was Shields who was falling more and more behind and needed to come up with something to at least try to change the way the fight was going.

To put it bluntly Shields sucked in that fight, he lacked Heart, the will to win, to ability to adapt, his strategy was hopeless and there was no plan B, he laked the will to throw down and give it his all when the chips where down even when his title hopes where drifting further and further away, They should make a new Epic Fail title just for him and make him the current raining Epic Fail champion of the UFC based on that performance.

So again seriously what fight was you watching, did I miss out on some amazing edge of your seat battle between two other guys coincidently named GSP and Jake Shields which you enjoyed so much, while I was to busy roped into watch the pile of sh1t that was been ditched out on the UFC 129 card.

Jake if you happen by any chance to read this, Go back to SF and get your ass subbed by Jacare you fcuking looser.


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Old 05-09-2011, 12:33 PM   #26 (permalink)
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GSP is light years ahead of Bisping in every departement including Striking. My god are you joking?
Statistically GSP lands 14% more strikes, has a lower % landed on him and has faced far better competition without the likes of Chris Leben padding his numbers. Bisping is a decent striker but to say he is better than GSP is absurd and completely baseless.
Im sorry what ? AM I JOKING " GSP IS LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF BISPING in every department INCLUDING STRIKING ".

Take the hater glasses off and actually be sensible.

First of all look at who GSP is essentially beating with strikes , Wrestlers now Bisping opponents are exactly amazing they are and have been better strikers than his previous few , his combinations are better he has better technique at punching i mean did you see GSP baseball throw over hand right i saw Liddell face palming.
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Im sorry what ? AM I JOKING " GSP IS LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF BISPING in every department INCLUDING STRIKING ".

Take the hater glasses off and actually be sensible.

First of all look at who GSP is essentially beating with strikes , Wrestlers now Bisping opponents are exactly amazing they are and have been better strikers than his previous few , his combinations are better he has better technique at punching i mean did you see GSP baseball throw over hand right i saw Liddell face palming.
Yeah, one bad punch in a single fight in GSP's career and you're writing him off. Bisping's striking is mediocore, he has no power at MW at all and he has no leg kicks, his knees are in slow motion and there's no way he could string together combos like GSP can.



And since you're the resident MMAF Bisping nut-hugger at least stop pretending you're not that much of a fan already. He's obviously your favorite fighter and it's annoying how you pretend you're only defending him because nobody else does.
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I've really disappointed at how ignorant the people on MMAF have been about GSP vs. Shields. That was an amazing fight, Shields and GSP both put on amazing performances and I was on the edge of my seat.
GTFO with that bullshit seriously, that was a poor performance from both guys, it wasn't technical in any aspect. don't mean to sound like a dick(this time) but come on!
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:49 PM   #29 (permalink)
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To be fair, Shields vs GSP wasn't the disaster that people make out. There have been lesser championship fights, but I am in no rush to rewatch it either. You've got two P4P fighters out there so sometimes things are gonna be slow and calculated and less risks are going to be taken.

Can't think of any Middleweights who can drop to WW and be a legit challenge to GSP.
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GTFO with that bullshit seriously, that was a poor performance from both guys, it wasn't technical in any aspect. don't mean to sound like a dick(this time) but come on!

Maybe you guys are just listening to Joe Rogan's commentary too much?


Shields made GSP miss SO many shots, he made Georges scared to throw kicks, he landed hard on him quite a few times and is the only guy since before I graduated high school to steal a round from him. You guys don't understand that a fighter looks best when fighting somebody sub-par. These two nearly canceled each other out in skill, GSP afraid to go to the ground and Shields able to avoid damage on the feet but unable to mount a great offense.

Anytime GSP took Shields down Shields had an arm locked and guard (or butterfly guard) pulled before his back even touched the mat. Even the minute or less of ground action was awesome and we saw just a glimpse of what Shields is going to do to the rest of the WW division on the ground.

We also saw conclusive proof that GSP has the best takedown defense in the sport, period. The way he got out of Shields' single attempts was incredible.


But since Shields was so good at avoiding damage standing, GSP was so good at defending the take-down, Shields was so good at scaring GSP away from his take-downs, that we saw a lot of action nullified and anyone not really paying that much attention (or anyone who only saw the fight once, with friends, after drinking) thinks the fight sucked. It didn't help that Aldo vs. Hominick was the fight right before it setting the pace for title matches.
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