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What about Chael Sonnen? Maia tossed him with ease.


The Silva fight was a bit of an anomaly.
I actually think the Sonnen fight was a bit of one to. Maia wasn't really having luck taking Sonnen down and was having difficulty even keeping him in his guard before the exchanged against the age and Maia threw some knees, I think he just caught Sonnen off guard or the stars aligned right. I honestly doubt Maia would have as much success if they had a rematch.




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I actually think the Sonnen fight was a bit of one to. Maia wasn't really having luck taking Sonnen down and was having difficulty even keeping him in his guard before the exchanged against the age and Maia threw some knees, I think he just caught Sonnen off guard or the stars aligned right. I honestly doubt Maia would have as much success if they had a rematch.
Agreed. I'm still confused as to how it happened ...

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See thats the diffrence, I don't have to put down the haterade (I hate Bisping) or play with the fan boy glasses to look at it objectively. Bisping couldn't hold GSP's jock in a striking match.
How I long for the day when Bisping takes the glory he rightfully deserves, and I believe that day is near, fcuk GSP vs Bisping, all odds point to the fact GSP and Bisping will probably never face each other, nor does it really matter if they do, its Anderson Silva who should be worried about the hunger of Michael Bisping, Anderson's days are numbered, every run has to end, even the great ones, and I strongly believe that Bisping is the man in prime position in both his current physical form and place within the division to take advantage of that fact, and he has the hunger to make it happen.

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How I long for the day when Bisping takes the glory he rightfully deserves, and I believe that day is near, fcuk GSP vs Bisping, all odds point to the fact GSP and Bisping will probably never face each other, nor does it really matter if they do, its Anderson Silva who should be worried about the hunger of Michael Bisping, Anderson's days are numbered, every run has to end, even the great ones, and I strongly believe that Bisping is the man in prime position in both his current physical form and place within the division to take advantage of that fact, and he has the hunger to make it happen.

Later this year when Bisping takes that Belt from the hands of Anderson Silva himself, I will rename that day Bisping Day, and I can't wait to see what you guys have to say then.
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Come to think of it, Bisping is actually a very, very good match up to beat GSP. He's a points fighter who uses a long jab and a straight as well as good footwork to out point other fighters. He's also got some stellar takedown defense and once he gets put on his back he's generally very slippery and scrambles very well. His style could very well beat GSP.... that's interesting to say the least IMO. I just don't know if Bisping is good enough to do it.


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I actually think the Sonnen fight was a bit of one to. Maia wasn't really having luck taking Sonnen down and was having difficulty even keeping him in his guard before the exchanged against the age and Maia threw some knees, I think he just caught Sonnen off guard or the stars aligned right. I honestly doubt Maia would have as much success if they had a rematch.
Really? REALLY? C'mon Toxic you can't honestly believe that. Chael's Kryptonite is BJJ. He's been subbed by damn near every top level BJJ player he's ever faced. Maia would do the same thing he did to him last time but even worse in a rematch.

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Really? REALLY? C'mon Toxic you can't honestly believe that. Chael's Kryptonite is BJJ. He's been subbed by damn near every top level BJJ player he's ever faced. Maia would do the same thing he did to him last time but even worse in a rematch.
It's not the fact that he got subbed, it's that he got taken down by Maia - that's the anomaly.

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I think maia would do it again as well or at least pull guard. Also his boxing had improved by a crazy amount since then. I'm not saying it's great, but c Chael was never anything special standing either so I think it would be competitive striking wise.
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This is actually my point. :P I was totally serious, but there is no one that fits the criteria. Maybe chael, but as poor a showing as gsp had with his striking, I still gotta say it was probably mostly the eye injury and he's a far better striker than chael.
Also while Chael is a great offensive wrestler, his take-down defense % according to UFC.com is only the low 60s. All GSP have to do would need to be proactive and get the first take down.
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GSP is beating wrestlers? GSP is beating complete fighters. Josh Koschek one of those "wrestlers?" Kos has better striking than anybody Bisping has ever beaten as does Alves and Hardy. Please tell me what great strikers Bisping has beaten? Akiyama? Leben? You know what the list of guys Bisping has in common most of them are sloppy brawlers who block punches with there face so they make Bispings stick and move style an above average ability to avoid damage look better than he really is. Bisping has slightly better than average striking but he rarely commits which is why he rarely looks for the knock out and also why he does a relatively good job avoiding damage. He is by no means horrible but to even compare his striking to an elite fighter like GSP never mind try to give him the edge is absurd. It would be like saying Dan Miller is gonna submit Demian Maia.

This is good stuff , first of all Koscheck has horrible striking and is not a complete fighter he is generic American wrestler WHO has is slightly better than the average one, He has power in his hands with no technique and good shoot in and some reasonable submissions nothing more , granted he is effective and like Jon Fitch can win fights with these skills. Akiyama , Kang and Leben have better striking easily.

Alves and Dan Hardy werent beaten by striking they were beaten by wrestling. They were most likely outstruck the BRIEF time they were standing but they werent exactly beaten with striking.

Your point about GSP being elite is nonsense , just because he is the BEST fighter in the division does not make him better at everything than everyone , His weakest attribute is striking and Bisping is actually very underrated at striking.


See thats the diffrence, I don't have to put down the haterade (I hate Bisping) or play with the fan boy glasses to look at it objectively. Bisping couldn't hold GSP's jock in a striking match.

You do hate Bisping and thats what clouds yours and everyones judgement, my opinion is less bias than yours as if you look in other threads i defend GSP and i have nothing against him, im looking as a neutral at 2 fighters i like and calling how i see.

Rather than saying the guy i prefer is better at something he isnt.

We may aswell call it a day , because everyone HATES Bisping and its really not a neutral argument.

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