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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 05-11-2011, 02:50 PM Thread Starter
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Union Memo Reveals Its Arguments Against MMA In New York

http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/05/1...a-in-new-york/

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This union garbage is well...garbage. Spitting on millions of dollars of revenue to the state because of a disagreement between the parent company and a lobbyist group's union? Absolute garbage.

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What a jackass. You don't like one guy or a single organization so you don't want an entire sport legalized? You sir, are a douchebag.



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it would be cool to have MMA in New York, but honestly, it can live without it. By that, I mean that MMA/UFC doesn't need New York in order to grow or considered a legitimate sport.
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it would be cool to have MMA in New York, but honestly, it can live without it. By that, I mean that MMA/UFC doesn't need New York in order to grow or considered a legitimate sport.
I sort of agree, but that doesn't change how ridiculous this situation has become. A blockbuster event at MSG would be sooooo awesome. Imagine Jonny Bones making his HW debut at MSG against whoever is the HW champ in a few years. It's not like they put on huge boxing matches anymore anyways.




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they should not legalize mma in New York to make more money for the government, they should legalize mma in New York because those criminal politicians have no right to prohibit it in the first place.

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MMA is HUGE in New York. And I mean huge.


There's got to be 25-30 gyms within a 10 mile radius from me. Probably a dozen fight teams, pro and amateur. Jon Jones' muay thai coaches teaches here in Buffalo. So does Amir Sadollah's old coach. And Rashad Evan's coaches. Castricone Kickboxing is near here, Rampage and Alves have worked with the head coach extensively.


And that's just Buffalo. Even down in the nowhere-tier (like Attica, NY where I was born, home of the prison) there's small MMA gyms, hell my friend Kyle has a gym there and is a 145lb amateur champion. A good amount of the Karate and TKD gyms (and there's oodles, we have a ton of nationally ranked TKD and Kenpo guys here) have started teaching MMA-related classes ontop of their normal curriculum.



MMA being "illegal" in NY has not stopped the epic boom of the sport here, it hasn't effected it at all honestly and if the campaigning politicians think it has, they're blind or ignorant or both.

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For those who Cant be bothered this imo is the key.


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Perhaps most interestingly, the UFC brought up its effort to work with unionized workers, noting that they have been using the hotel union's very own travel company to ensure that when the UFC puts on events in different North American cities, they are doing business with unionized hotels.

"In Toronto the UFC spent over $1 million in direct wages to union employees. Almost 500 union workers – from stagehands to electricians to security guards to ushers – would be employed for a single UFC event at Madison Square Garden. In fact, the very union opposing this bill and criticizing the UFC's business practices sought its business for its very own travel booking company called Inmex, ensuring that UFC stays in unionized hotels around the country."

The promotion also brought up the irony that a hotel union would fight to keep the UFC, which helps fill up hotels when it comes to town, out of The Empire State. This, the UFC insisted, only further supported White's claim that the real issue here is the Culinary Union's battle with Station Casinos.

"The hotel workers are opposing legislation which would create jobs for their members and seek to disparage a company with which it does business for reasons wholly unrelated to mixed martial arts or even the UFC. We would offer the real motivation for its 'opposition' is the fact that a company in Las Vegas, a totally separate business outside of New York, has not acquiesced in a culinary union organizing drive; the only nexus between these two situations is the fact that some of the owners of the UFC happen to be partial owners of that separate company in Nevada."

This begs the obvious question: Is UNITE HERE against MMA or just the UFC? Since the memo issued by the Hotel Trades Council focuses primarily on the UFC's business practices, one can only assume that their issue lies with the UFC. And what is the root of the issue? According to Dana White and the UFC, it is as far removed from MMA as possible.

"It has nothing to do with MMA. Look at us, look where we're sanctioned, look at all things that happened. It has nothing to do with mixed martial arts. It has to do with the Culinary Union," White said in Toronto. "They're very powerful in New York. These unions on the east coast are still strong like the old school, and that's really what's going on."

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