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Old 05-12-2011, 05:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
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No i love watching GSP jab for 25 mins! (sarcasm)

But i also agree that Tim was at least more entertaining because of his SIZE!

The dude is a monster so you think he can do something NASTY at anytime.

But the main thing about GSP that annoys me is that people have the nerves to say he is THE BEST P4P fighter...

It blows me away on how people could actually believe that when he is to F'ing scared to leave 1 weight class.... I REALLY dont understand peoples logic...

At first i thought it was just the French Canadians just trying to convince themselves after watching guys like AS and JBJ and Aldo actually KICK ASS and prove that there so much better than there opponent that they can ACTUALLY finish him....

But sadly enough theres more then just the French that believe he is...
the champions job is to remain champion, its the challengers job to bring the fight and take the belt off him

fact is GSP has probably the best record in MMA right now outside of AS, and fact is that no1 can pose a threat to him right now, you dont determine who is the best my making them move weight classess, its not as if GSP is a HUGE WW like JBJ in LHW

GSP doesnt need to do anything except keep winning until 1 day some1 is good enough to take that belt off of him, and until that day comes he will remain #2 P4P and will go down as one of the GOAT

you dont need to finish your opponents to prove you are a lot better than them, GSP proves that he is in another level in all of his fights, just because he doesnt finish it shouldnt diminish his accomplishments
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the champions job is to remain champion, its the challengers job to bring the fight and take the belt off him

fact is GSP has probably the best record in MMA right now outside of AS, and fact is that no1 can pose a threat to him right now, you dont determine who is the best my making them move weight classess, its not as if GSP is a HUGE WW like JBJ in LHW

GSP doesnt need to do anything except keep winning until 1 day some1 is good enough to take that belt off of him, and until that day comes he will remain #2 P4P and will go down as one of the GOAT

you dont need to finish your opponents to prove you are a lot better than them, GSP proves that he is in another level in all of his fights, just because he doesnt finish it shouldnt diminish his accomplishments

All this has truth to it, but YES you DO need to finish your appointment to PROVE you are on a whole other level...

I dont know why you think you can just do shit other than run and jab, and say your better then other champ that are willing to fight in other weight classes just to fight top dogs and prove it.

He is willing to fight Penn and anyone as long as he doesn't change weights is sad.

The guy used to only ever talk about how he wants to take out Penn for his so called Legacy but not willing to risk the smallest shit to prove it, and hides from Anderson.

Now theres guys like JBJ and Aldo who are rising up and there going to pass George "Safe" Pierre in the dust. Telling me the 2nd best P4P fighter cant ever finish his opponents and the boring ass fights he does get into he almost loses it by 1 round... Is O So Funny

GSP is going to be old news once he loses WHILE being a boring ass fighter...

AND YES SORRY BUT YOU DO NEED TO MOVE INTO OTHER WEIGHT CLASSES TO SAY YOUR BETTER THEN ALL THE OTHER FIGHTERS IN..... OTHER WEIGHT CLASSES...... How is that not obvious......

And i dont care if he is a small WW when he himself said he could fight in MW but he will have to be a long term move, and that still doesn't justify why he cant go down to LW...

Saying testing yourself with only the people in your single weight class doesn't effect his P4P status is absurd
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Old 05-12-2011, 06:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
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All this has truth to it, but YES you DO need to finish your appointment to PROVE you are on a whole other level...

I dont know why you think you can just do shit other than run and jab, and say your better then other champ that are willing to fight in other weight classes just to fight top dogs and prove it.

He is willing to fight Penn and anyone as long as he doesn't change weights is sad.

The guy used to only ever talk about how he wants to take out Penn for his so called Legacy but not willing to risk the smallest shit to prove it, and hides from Anderson.

Now theres guys like JBJ and Aldo who are rising up and there going to pass George "Safe" Pierre in the dust. Telling me the 2nd best P4P fighter cant ever finish his opponents and the boring ass fights he does get into he almost loses it by 1 round... Is O So Funny

GSP is going to be old news once he loses WHILE being a boring ass fighter...

AND YES SORRY BUT YOU DO NEED TO MOVE INTO OTHER WEIGHT CLASSES TO SAY YOUR BETTER THEN ALL THE OTHER FIGHTERS IN..... OTHER WEIGHT CLASSES...... How is that not obvious......

And i dont care if he is a small WW when he himself said he could fight in MW but he will have to be a long term move, and that still doesn't justify why he cant go down to LW...

Only testing yourself with only the people in your single weight class doesn't effect his P4P status is absurd
lol, thing is, who said he has to prove he is better than all the other fighters in all the other weight classes??

fighters dont have to keep shifting through weight divisions to prove how good they are, for a fighter to have a legacy and be considered one of the GOAT is to simply be the best in his divisions

this new trend of fighters having to move up to ''prove themselves'' is ridiculous, the fact that GSP is the best WW on earth should be a testament to his placement in P4P rankings, being the best WW shouldnt lower him in the rankings

the only reason ppl get pissed off that he doesnt move up is because GSP is a dumbass, he keeps saying that he thinks he could beat anderson if he put on the right weight and all that BS, if he simply said ''AS would kill me, i want to finish my career at WW'' like AS said about JBJ then there wouldnt be so many fans bitching

GSP is shooting himself in the foot by not being honest, still...i see no reason why he has to move up, the only thing that would happen is he would ruin the whole WW division by vacating the title, the whole purpose of having a dominant champ is so he passes the torch to the new breed, like what hughes did for GSP

the title means something because of GSP, him vacating it ruins the whole division

fedor was a small HW, why didnt ppl bitch about him going down to LHW to prove himself?

aldo might never move up, does that mean he wont have a legacy?

sorry, i just think these expectations are ridiculous
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lol, thing is, who said he has to prove he is better than all the other fighters in all the other weight classes??

fighters dont have to keep shifting through weight divisions to prove how good they are, for a fighter to have a legacy and be considered one of the GOAT is to simply be the best in his divisions

this new trend of fighters having to move up to ''prove themselves'' is ridiculous, the fact that GSP is the best WW on earth should be a testament to his placement in P4P rankings, being the best WW shouldnt lower him in the rankings

the only reason ppl get pissed off that he doesnt move up is because GSP is a dumbass, he keeps saying that he thinks he could beat anderson if he put on the right weight and all that BS, if he simply said ''AS would kill me, i want to finish my career at WW'' like AS said about JBJ then there wouldnt be so many fans bitching

GSP is shooting himself in the foot by not being honest, still...i see no reason why he has to move up, the only thing that would happen is he would ruin the whole WW division by vacating the title, the whole purpose of having a dominant champ is so he passes the torch to the new breed, like what hughes did for GSP

the title means something because of GSP, him vacating it ruins the whole division

fedor was a small HW, why didnt ppl bitch about him going down to LHW to prove himself?

aldo might never move up, does that mean he wont have a legacy?

sorry, i just think these expectations are ridiculous

Like you said GSP shot himself in the foot, because he doesn't say i want to be the best WW on the planet, THEN i wouldn't say SHIT, but he wants to be the best in the world... period....

And he cant be that unless he for 1 finishes his fights... And 2 MOVE WEIGHT CLASSES...

But if he is happy with staying in a single weight class, and almost losing boring ass fights, then thats fine he can stay with his status until he loses in his position then he is a complete nobody because he lost in the only weight class he is willing to fight in...

Geez i dont even enjoy talking about this failure... I HATE seeing this much talent wasted... *puke*
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Wow, we are actually comparing GSP to Tim Sylvia. I never thought the day would come.
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Wow, we are actually comparing GSP to Tim Sylvia. I never thought the day would come.

Lol this is a funny thread
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Like you said GSP shot himself in the foot, because he doesn't say i want to be the best WW on the planet, THEN i wouldn't say SHIT, but he wants to be the best in the world... period....

And he cant be that unless he for 1 finishes his fights... And 2 MOVE WEIGHT CLASSES...

But if he is happy with staying in a single weight class, and almost losing boring ass fights, then thats fine he can stay with his status until he loses in his position then he is a complete nobody because he lost in the only weight class he is willing to fight in...

Geez i dont even enjoy talking about this failure... I HATE seeing this much talent wasted... *puke*
i see where you're coming from but i simply cant agree, for the record im not even a big GSP fan, i just find it hard to denie how good he is

i dont enjoy his fights but i understand him, im just waiting for the day where a super WW blasts through every1 and destroys GSP

i dont think any champion needs to keep jumping weight classess to prove themselves, thats just a bonus IMO
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i see where you're coming from but i simply cant agree, for the record im not even a big GSP fan, i just find it hard to denie how good he is

i dont enjoy his fights but i understand him, im just waiting for the day where a super WW blasts through every1 and destroys GSP

i dont think any champion needs to keep jumping weight classess to prove themselves, thats just a bonus
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And when theres thousands of fighters trying to be number 1 P4P every bonus matters
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No i love watching GSP jab for 25 mins! (sarcasm)

But i also agree that Tim was at least more entertaining because of his SIZE!

The dude is a monster so you think he can do something NASTY at anytime.

But the main thing about GSP that annoys me is that people have the nerves to say he is THE BEST P4P fighter...

It blows me away on how people could actually believe that when he is to F'ing scared to leave 1 weight class.... I REALLY dont understand peoples logic...

At first i thought it was just the French Canadians just trying to convince themselves after watching guys like AS and JBJ and Aldo actually KICK ASS and prove that there so much better than there opponent that they can ACTUALLY finish him....

But sadly enough theres more then just the French that believe he is...
the NERVE of people to hold opinions on subjective matters! the gall! LMAO
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