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Old 05-13-2011, 04:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 05-13-2011, 04:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I really doupt he is already at the level striking wise and grappling wise to defeat a guy like Rashad just yet.

I truly believe Rashad knows he is the superior Fighter!
LMAO Bobby ... LMAO!!!
I can go to sleep now...this was a good one.

Can't wait to see Jones brake Evan's face!
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LMAO Bobby ... LMAO!!!
I can go to sleep now...this was a good one.

Can't wait to see Jones brake Evan's face!
I really can't imagine Jones being able to outstrike Rashad just yet limba and Rashad's BJJ knowledge should also be superior.

It is really an interesting matchup. I do believe that Jones can defintely take Rashad down but so do I believe that Rashad can do the exact same thing. I also believe that both guys can get back up Jones probably faster than Rashad.

Striking makes the difference here for me and I see Rashad TKO Jones there.

You know that I think Jones striking is heavily overrated. I could name you a dozen fighters who would outstrike him and stop him on the feet including Shogun Rua.
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I wonder if Rampage brutally KOs Hammill if he'll get the shot.
This is interesting actually. Let's say Rampage puts on a hell of a show and dominates-stops Hammill while Rashad wins in a boring way (although i doubt the fight is going to be boring, Rashad ain't outwrestling Davis as he does with all of his opponents).. who would the UFC give a shot.

I'm still 75 percent sure it's going to Evans with all the drama and so on..
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Old 05-13-2011, 04:47 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I assume they're going to have him fight Rampage or Hamill as Machida is still a little ways away from a title shot. Can't wait to hear Rashad Evans on twitter in about 2 minutes claiming this is a conspiracy.
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I really can't imagine Jones being able to outstrike Rashad just yet limba and Rashad's BJJ knowledge should also be far superior.

It is really an interesting matchup. I do believe that Jones can defintely take Rashad down but so do I believe that Rashad can do the exact same thing. I also believe that both guys can get back up Jones probably faster than Rashad.

Striking makes the difference here for me and I see Rashad TKO Jones there.

You know that I think Jones striking is heavily overrated. I could name you a dozen fighters who would outstrike him and stop him on the feet.
What makes Rashad's stand up so amazing all of a sudden?
He Koed post-chin Liddell, Sean Salmon, and Griffin when he was losing the fight.

Edit: I would also like to see your list please.

I'm not saying that he doesn't have good stand up, I'm just saying I don't see anything that shows his striking is leaps and bounds above JBJs, especially considering JBJ wiped the floor with Shogun standing.
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What makes Rashad's stand up so amazing all of a sudden?
He Koed post-chin Liddell, Sean Salmon, and Griffin when he was losing the fight.

I'm not saying that he doesn't have good stand up, I'm just saying I don't see anything that shows his striking is leaps and bounds above JBJs, especially considering JBJ wiped the floor with Shogun standing.
Nobody said it#s amazing! It's far behind the top guys in the division like Lyoto or Rua.. but he is certainly at JBJ's level and I just think he is superior there. He throws better combinaztions more fluent and much faster. He is just much more agile in the standup. Jones is still working on his own technique and sytle.

The Shogun fight is of course not an indication on his striking level, cause Shogun was out of shape.
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What makes Rashad's stand up so amazing all of a sudden?
He Koed post-chin Liddell, Sean Salmon, and Griffin when he was losing the fight.

Edit: I would also like to see your list please.

I'm not saying that he doesn't have good stand up, I'm just saying I don't see anything that shows his striking is leaps and bounds above JBJs, especially considering JBJ wiped the floor with Shogun standing.
Agreed, Rashad has good stand up, but he's far from elite, Lyoto and Shogun are elite strikers, Jones might be in that category one day. But for now, very few at 205 can be considered as good of strikers as those two, and we all know what happened when Rashad fought Machida.
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Nobody said it#s amazing! It's far behind the top guys in the devision like Lyoto or Rua.. but he is certainly at JBJ's level and I just think he is superior there. He throws better combinaztions more fluent and much faster. He is just much more agile in the standup. Jones is still working on his own technique and sytle.

The Shogun fight is of course not an indication on his striking level, cause Shogun was out of shape.
Out of shape says who? didn't his own brother say he was fine before the fight?

When you start getting the snot kicked out of you from the beginning bell, you're gonna be pretty gassed come the 2nd round. I'm glad you brought up the gassing issue tho, what makes you so sure Rashad won't gas like he has in his past 2-3 fights?

Know who I haven't seen gas yet? JBJ.

I'd say Rashad might be in for a bit more of a fight than you think.
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They can hate on Jones all they want, but a few things I care about remains unchanged. He is among the most exciting fighters in the sport and he utterly destroys his opponents. It just so happens that Evans can not claim either of those things.

It's clear the media wants to take this and run with it. They want to turn it into something more than it actually is so they can add fuel to the flame. They want us to care...but I don't.
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