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Old 05-13-2011, 07:21 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Jon "Swagger Jacker" Jones be ducking Rashad like Tito ducked Chuck. Hell I'd be scared too, look what happened to the last guy that watched Rashad's stanky leg up close.........


I'm kidding btw, haters gonna hate, doctors told him he needed surgery, he pulled out, a surgeon says it's not nearly as bad as a General Physician thought, not the first time this has happened. Rashad will beat Davis, Phil will get time to mature while getting a taste of the spotlight and we'll get to see Jones Evans anyway.
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:28 PM   #42 (permalink)
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The beef between Jones and Rashad doesn't catch my interest at all. I just want to see a good main event this summer and Rampage vs Hamill AIN'T CUTTIN' IT! I'm glad Dos Santos vs Carwin is coming up.
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I just... don't care at all.


MMA is about fighting, not drama or teams or injury conspiracies or any of that garbage. Jones may be a great athlete but he sure has created a lot of annoying drama at LHW.
Don't blame jones for rashad's high school drama queen bull shit
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Old 05-14-2011, 03:30 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Out of shape says who? didn't his own brother say he was fine before the fight?

When you start getting the snot kicked out of you from the beginning bell, you're gonna be pretty gassed come the 2nd round. I'm glad you brought up the gassing issue tho, what makes you so sure Rashad won't gas like he has in his past 2-3 fights?

Know who I haven't seen gas yet? JBJ.

I'd say Rashad might be in for a bit more of a fight than you think.
jesus tap dancing christ, im starting to think most mmaforum members are stupid who believe getting makes you gas, it doesnt and i would know because i do mma and boxing sparring and i never gas when i get hit hard, shogun just doesnt want to make excuses you are very sad if you believe shogun was in shape, btw lil nog dropped shogun hard in pride and he was not gassed for the rest of that fight. shogun looked like he was on cocaine before the fight, and yes JBJ did gas a bit in round 2 late and onwards.
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I just... don't care at all.


MMA is about fighting, not drama or teams or injury conspiracies or any of that garbage. Jones may be a great athlete but he sure has created a lot of annoying drama at LHW.
Completely agree. I've never liked Evans, but Jones is annoying as f**k. Rashad has had his foolish antics recently, but Jones is on thin ice becasue he's said such stupid things before, and this particular sequence of events is suspect.

About his next fight though, if it's not against Evans, the only option is Rampage vs Hamill winner.
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This is just ridiculous. Almost non-sense...
Sorry to say it like this. No offense.

I don't even know how to put this tbh...

What do you mean by this?!



That's the whole point of MMA, the basic principle behind creating Mixed Martial Arts: fighters coming from different disciplines (boxing, wrestling, karate, BJJ, muay thai etc), possessing different skills, going against each other, in order to determine who is the better fighter.

Is there a fighter out there who doesn't use his strong points in a fight (except Gurgel)?!

GSP, BJ, Machida, Cain, Anderson, Couture, JDS,

Sure...with time, some fighters have mastered more disciplines, reaching a level that enables them to fight extremelly well and be comfortable in more areas of the game.

I'm still in awe about that quote.

Listen:

Shogun would get destroyed by Jones, if he wouldn't use his strong points....

Oooohh wait...that happened already.




You are still too obsessed with judging Jones by his striking alone...

I don't know why you're doing this, tbh.

And even so, i rank Jones much higher than Evans in this area.

And honestly, Evans has s*itty striking...That's what i think.

Except the Liddell KO (who hasn't KO'd Liddell recently?!?!?), he hasn't shown anything.

All Evans does is run from his opponents, trying to counter with his right hand. The only time he thought he can strike, he got KTFO'd. (Lyoto)

He said he's gonna bring the fight to Rampage, but once the fight started, Rampage took the center of the octagon and chased Evans down. Just like Liddell, Thiago Silva or Forrest.

Evans can't strike. Whenever he says he's gonna strike, that's just him saying: "pls follow me, so i can counter you or rush in for a big TD when you try to hit me".

Just my 2 cents.
Again Limba my friend!

I do not question Jones as an MMA fighter.. not at all! I would be foolish to do so after all he has done!

I truly believe Jones is a top 5 LHW in the World and he will stay there for a long, long time.


I am talking about his striking! His striking isn't great.. not at all! He is average in this aspect of the game, which of course doesn't change that he is an amazing fighter.. because just like you said, he is MMA fighter.


I am talking about his striking only. Just one big aspect of the game of a Mixed Maertial Artist.

I don't see what makes you guys believe he is a world beater there already. The guy learned the first punches 4 years ago.. and on youtube or somewhere..

There is nothing out there which tells me that he is a great striker. He is ntohing but mediocre and needs to improve A LOT!

Just because he beat an out os shape Shogun doesn't make him a world beater on the feet. There are a dozen guys who would beat him up pretty badly standing up and I think Rashad can defintely pos a threat to him on the feet, if not a big one!!!

Again, this doesn't make him less of a fighter he already is.. he is a great MMA fighter already and HIS STRONG points are so great that it makes his weak points look nunexistent.

But Jones is far away from being a great striker!

Thats why I said, Rashad posses an interesting style mathcup because of his Wrestling and striking ( in which I believe he is superior ). If Rashad is able to make this a standup war for at least some time.. I believe he could stop Jones and defeat him.

Just like I see Machida being able to stop Jones early!
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A flying knee to Shoguns head in the very first exchange of round one. An amazing spinning backfist from the clinch in round 2. And in round 3, a body shot of absurd power that made Shogun drop to the mat and TAP.

Let me just say it one more time. A body shot that dropped Shogun Rua and made him tap.

Of course, we see that shit everyday. No big deal.
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Again Limba my friend!

I do not question Jones as an MMA fighter.. not at all! I would be foolish to do so after all he has done!

I truly believe Jones is a top 5 LHW in the World and he will stay there for a long, long time.


I am talking about his striking! His striking isn't great.. not at all! He is average in this aspect of the game, which of course doesn't change that he is an amazing fighter.. because just like you said, he is MMA fighter.


I am talking about his striking only. Just one big aspect of the game of a Mixed Maertial Artist.

I don't see what makes you guys believe he is a world beater there already. The guy learned the first punches 4 years ago.. and on youtube or somewhere..

There is nothing out there which tells me that he is a great striker. He is ntohing but mediocre and needs to improve A LOT!

Just because he beat an out os shape Shogun doesn't make him a world beater on the feet. There are a dozen guys who would beat him up pretty badly standing up and I think Rashad can defintely pos a threat to him on the feet, if not a big one!!!

Again, this doesn't make him less of a fighter he already is.. he is a great MMA fighter already and HIS STRONG points are so great that it makes his weak points look nunexistent.

But Jones is far away from being a great striker!

Thats why I said, Rashad posses an interesting style mathcup because of his Wrestling and striking ( in which I believe he is superior ). If Rashad is able to make this a standup war for at least some time.. I believe he could stop Jones and defeat him.

Just like I see Machida being able to stop Jones early!
I agree. However i believe a fighter needs the characteristics of good takedown defense and evasive great counter striking to defeat Jones. I think Rashad lacks just a little in the striking but he still poses enough problems with his patient strikes and he ha s a good grappling game. But i truly believe machida proves these characteristics and is the worst match up for jones and should they meet Lyoto would win it early.
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I agree. However i believe a fighter needs the characteristics of good takedown defense and evasive great counter striking to defeat Jones. I think Rashad lacks just a little in the striking but he still poses enough problems with his patient strikes and he ha s a good grappling game. But i truly believe machida proves these characteristics and is the worst match up for jones and should they meet Lyoto would win it early.
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