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post #21 of 30 (permalink) Old 05-14-2011, 10:51 PM
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I really hope not.


Hammill is on a tear but i think he needs another win after Rampage , and has been man handled by Jones already.

Rampage IMO lost to Machida and even if you dont think he did , you have to admit he looked garbage and HAS lost to Evans recently.



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Yes Rampage is likely No 1 Contender if he beats Hamill. He 100% certainly is if he crushes Hamill. But I agree that Hamill is a wild card in this situation, if Rampage is on a bad day or hasn't had a great camp, Hamill can win. Problem is that most of the other guys would beat him anyway.


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Rampage refuses to fight for the Championship for a long, long time now.. that won't change after the Hammil fight for whatever reason he might have.. Also he won't ever take a fight so close after he just fought.

If they consider Rampage they consider a half year long layoff from Jones which isn't acceptable!

Lyoto is in fact the only guy availabe right now since Jones refuses to fight Rashad for some reason and every other contender is booked.

I see the obvious Lyoto vs. Jones in Rio or Philly!
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Rampage refuses to fight for the Championship for a long, long time now.. that won't change after the Hammil fight for whatever reason he might have.. Also he won't ever take a fight so close after he just fought.

If they consider Rampage they consider a half year long layoff from Jones which isn't acceptable!

Lyoto is in fact the only guy availabe right now since Jones refuses to fight Rashad for some reason and every other contender is booked.

I see the obvious Lyoto vs. Jones in Rio or Philly!
Again you exaggerate and lie, Rampage has not been decling a shot for a long time, he just declined it once, back in March, when Evans got injured and Rua didn't have an opponent.

His reason was that there was not enough time to make weight and have a good camp, and if he could make weight, there would have been no fight-specific training in preparation for Shogun. Wisely, he turned down the offer because 1. Rua has beaten him before and 2. Rua was holding the title. Just a bad situation all around for Jackson, if he's going to fight Shogun again he's got to do it properly, so he passed the chance to someone else.

So, if he beats Hamill, why won't Rampage fight for the title? Apparently you can read his mind, so we'd like to hear it.

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Again you exaggerate and lie, Rampage has not been decling a shot for a long time, he just declined it once, back in March, when Evans got injured and Rua didn't have an opponent.

His reason was that there was not enough time to make weight and have a good camp, and if he could make weight, there would have been no fight-specific training in preparation for Shogun. Wisely, he turned down the offer because 1. Rua has beaten him before and 2. Rua was holding the title. Just a bad situation all around for Jackson, if he's going to fight Shogun again he's got to do it properly, so he passed the chance to someone else.

So, if he beats Hamill, why won't Rampage fight for the title? Apparently you can read his mind, so we'd like to hear it.
Like I already mentioned.. what makes you believe that Rampage would take a fight 2 months after the Hammil bout?

There is absolutely no way he does that! He never did and won'T start now.

Jones would be in for a long, long layoff if they decide to dot that.


Also on the other points you made. He was offered to fight Lyoto as well and refused. He did it multible times already and there is nothing which makes me believe he wouldn't do the same now.

You need to check your sources first, alright?



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Again you exaggerate and lie, Rampage has not been decling a shot for a long time, he just declined it once, back in March, when Evans got injured and Rua didn't have an opponent.

His reason was that there was not enough time to make weight and have a good camp, and if he could make weight, there would have been no fight-specific training in preparation for Shogun. Wisely, he turned down the offer because 1. Rua has beaten him before and 2. Rua was holding the title. Just a bad situation all around for Jackson, if he's going to fight Shogun again he's got to do it properly, so he passed the chance to someone else.

So, if he beats Hamill, why won't Rampage fight for the title? Apparently you can read his mind, so we'd like to hear it.
In fairness Rampage also chose to coach TUF opposite Rashad rather than fight Machida for the title when he was champ.




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The only reason I would want to see Hamill get a title shot is that I would get some free credits by betting on Jones...
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He has no where near the pedigree of Lyoto. Who is the other former champion? All I see is crusty old Tito.
I said if he beats Rampage then he'd have beaten 2 former champions. Rampage being the 2nd.
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I said if he beats Rampage then he'd have beaten 2 former champions. Rampage being the 2nd.
My apologies. Missed that.
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Why do people seem to want to punish Hamill for the fact Jones broke the rules? Seriously people treat it like Matt Cheated or something when Bones is the one in the wrong. Matt deserved to win the fight because Jon neglected the rules. I just don't get it.
There is a difference between punishing him because Jones broke the rules, and recognizing the situation at the time the rule was broken. It isn't punishing Hammil to say that Jones dominating him in every aspect of the fight until the retarded rule came into play. Plus, Hammil's shoulder was wrecked so the fight would have ended with a Jones TKO. Basically, there was nothing in the fight that would lead one to believe that Hammil has a chance against Jones.

I guess this is a situation where we aren't rewarding Hammil because Jones broke the rules. Jones has already been punished by a blemish on his record, Hammil doesn't deserve a reward for the ass-kicking he took in that fight.

*Plus, we all know the rule is complete and utter horseshit, a part of an archaic set of rules... so I choose to ignore that loss as crap.


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