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Rampage Jackson 25 67.57%
Matt Hamill 12 32.43%
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:30 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I'm surprised by how many people are writing Rampage off, he clearly beat Machida and now all of a sudden, he drops in stock?
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:58 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I'm surprised by how many people are writing Rampage off, he clearly beat Machida and now all of a sudden, he drops in stock?
Strange ain't it? Also strange how everyone bitches about 130, saying the main event is rubbish and a mismatch, but the posts in this thread imply the fight is quite competive and Hamill can likely win it.

I think the poll is a much better medium, no words for argument's sake, just pick a winner. This is a good event but Rampage should demolish Hamill.
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Rampage appears to be in shape, motivated, the In The Moment special really sold me on him, he seems like he's never got over taking Forrest lightly and he'll never do it again.

Hamill probably shoots for a single, forces Page up against the cage, keeps him there for a minute or two working with some shots to the thigh/body but Rampage breaks free catches him with an uppercut/right hook combo and follows him to the ground for the stoppage victory.
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I'm going to make a bold claim and predict that Rampage is actually going to go for a few take downs and slams of his own this fight.

I think he's going to mix up his boxing with a few take down attempts to really throw Hamill off his game, he definitely won't be expecting Page shooting for take downs.

Ramps looks in shape and well conditioned for this fight, I think he'll take a dominant UD, rocking hamill a few times.
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I'm surprised by how many people are writing Rampage off, he clearly beat Machida and now all of a sudden, he drops in stock?
Don't worry, I can tell you why you're so suprised about that.

The reason is that Machida clearly defeated Rampage that night under acceptable scoring criteria.. but since we do not have that in the UFC, you are suprised.
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Don't worry, I can tell you why you're so suprised about that.

The reason is that Machida clearly defeated Rampage that night under acceptable scoring criteria.. but since we do not have that in the UFC, you are suprised.
Rampage came to fight under the "Ultimate Fighting Championship" banner while Machida thought it was "Ultimate Elusive Guy"
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Rampage came to fight under the "Ultimate Fighting Championship" while Machida thought it was "Ultimate Elusive Guy"
Lyoto represents the philosophy of Fighting!


Everybody who knows something about Fighting.. knows that Rampage got his ass kicked that night!
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Everybody who knows something about Fighting.. knows that Rampage got his ass kicked that night!
No, he didn't Bobs. Not even close, but I know you see things from quite a unique angle.

I thought it was a close fight that might have gone either way. When it went to the judges, I was prettysure Rampage was going to take win a UD having won the first two rounds, especially since he didn't take a lot of damage in the third. (which he lost)

I think Jackson will win by TKO or decision. Although people like to pretend Rampage is slow, Hammil is about as slow as it gets for UFC LHW. His fight with Jardine was really hard to watch.
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No, he didn't Bobs. Not even close, but I know you see things from quite a unique angle.

I thought it was a close fight that might have gone either way. When it went to the judges, I was prettysure Rampage was going to take win a UD having won the first two rounds, especially since he didn't take a lot of damage in the third. (which he lost)

I think Jackson will win by TKO or decision. Although people like to pretend Rampage is slow, Hammil is about as slow as it gets for UFC LHW. His fight with Jardine was really hard to watch.
The reason why you think that SJ is because you are blinded by this terrible scoring system which is unacceptable for MMA.

If Rampage won a 10:9 Round in the first and second and obviously Lyoto won a 10:8.

But no, because the scoring system is what is wrong with this fight and MMA overall.


If this fight is scored as a whole like it should be or even at least like Dream Rules. .then there is absolutely no way anybody could argue that Rampage won this fight.

Lyoto was the one who rocked him, controlled him for 5 minutes and was in a close striking battle with him in the beginning.

Not the other way around!
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Rampage via stoppage or dominant UD.

Hamill is a C level fighter.



hey Bobby,

This isn't DREAM or PRIDE. Rampage beat Machida under the judging system we currently have in place. He won the first two and lost rd 3.
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