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  • Frank Mir

    Votes: 22 59.5%
  • Roy Nelson

    Votes: 15 40.5%

***OFFICIAL*** Frank Mir vs. Roy Nelson Pre/Post Fight Discussion

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I honestly cant see Mir finishing Big Country, if JDS couldnt after landing those bombs then i doubt Mir can. He may be able to get it down and get a sub but Nelsons a big guy and is a decent grappler. If there is a finish in this fight it will be Big Country TKO in the 2nd, but im going to say Frank Mir by submission in the 3rd or a UD.
 
#3 ·
This is an interesting fight for me. Probably the most interesting one on the card. Mir's striking always surprises me but Nelson's is highly underrated. He managed to hang in there with JDS for 3 rounds and also landed some solid shots and cut JDS.

I am more interested in the ground game. It has been awhile, but Nelson has beaten Mir in grappling before.
 
#11 ·
Mir has a better ground game and if you stop and think about it Nelson's ground game is fairly defensive off his back wile Mir is pure offence from top or bottom.

I think Roy needs to win this fight standing and I think he'll prob need a KO to win although I dont think Mir's stand up is as good as JDS's I think it will be competitive I just dont think he can handle the power shots if Roy lands flush and I know he thinks he hits harder than JDS but I call BS and I dont see him finishing Roy without it being "The perfect storm" so I think Frank will have to try and take Roy down and sub him and his wrestling/takedowns aren't all that hot.


P.S. Both of them would beat Meathead, If they couldn't outstrike him hypothetically ether fighter would just take him down and turn him into a pretzel IMO.
 
#17 ·
Mir has a better ground game and if you stop and think about it Nelson's ground game is fairly defensive off his back wile Mir is pure offence from top or bottom.
Like I said earlier, that is pure speculation since in the past when they grappled, Nelson was the winner. Not saying Mir is or isn't better now, just saying that Nelson has proven to be better in the past.

I think Roy needs to win this fight standing and I think he'll prob need a KO to win
I disagree, Nelson can win this fight anywhere as could Mir.

although I dont think Mir's stand up is as good as JDS's I think it will be competitive I just dont think he can handle the power shots if Roy lands flush and I know he thinks he hits harder than JDS but I call BS and I dont see him finishing Roy without it being "The perfect storm" so I think Frank will have to try and take Roy down and sub him and his wrestling/takedowns aren't all that hot.
I agree here. I don't really think that Mir hits as hard as JDS either, but that is speculation. What's not speculation is that JDS' striking is levels beyond Mir's striking.
 
#13 ·
He blew his knee out flailing around the octagon perpetually rocked from the vicious ass beating he was taking.

Mir can do whatever he wants to Nelson and will finish him within 2 rounds if he doesn't decide to just hug him against the cage for the entire fight. The only reason JDS didn't finish Nelson is he gassed badly like halfway through the second and Nelson was doing his best impression of a tortoise on its hind legs for the entire fight past the first few minutes. A standing TKO could have been justified at almost any point in that fight.
 
#25 ·
I'm taking Mir in this one all day long. Possibly a finish but most likely a decisive UD.

He is a better stiker than Roy with a longer reach, better footwork and he is quicker, stronger and more athletic. His takedown defence should be sufficient to stop Roys shot - and he should be able to light him up on the feet.

Nelson is overrated.
 
#97 ·
I was right for once! Mir absolutely dominated in all aspects of this fight, i was especially impressed with his offensive wrestling. And that was one beautiful throw in the 1st round.

I wouldnt be surpised to see Mir get a number one contender shot now. And he is looking HUGE, the strength advantage in this fight was very noticable - I like Mir better at higher weights. The only problem is that he also gassed, quite hard, it just wasnt as noticable because Nelson nearly had a heart attack then and there in the Octagon.

Hopefully this will end some of the Nelson love - the guy is the definition of a middle of the road heavyweight. That big belly might seem fun, but if he doesnt care enough about his career to make necessary adjustments, then i am not concerned about seeing him do well. Gassing to that extent proves that Nelson is not anywhere near elite level fitness, which is what you need when fighting in the UFC. Mir has adapted himself numerous times in his career so as to stay relevant to the division - Nelson seems unwilling to do so and such will continue to lose to the higher end Heavyweights.
 
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#26 ·
Mir can handle nelson on the feet or the ground . the only thing i believe nelson as advantage in is his chin . Frank doesn't like to take heavy hit while Roy can hit them all day .
I'm still picking frank here By UD by being the more polished striker .
 
#29 ·
I see the stand up as fairly even in some ways, Mir's more technical with less power and Roy has more power and a rock solid chin. Mir has never had consistent solid TDD in the past, Nelson should be able to work a takedown at some point but whats bigger IMO is that Mir should have a very hard time taking Roy down.

To me Mir's chin makes this fight swing in Roy's favor. I can see Mir with a slight edge in the first round but I think somewhere during the last two rounds Roy will catch him with the same big shots he did JDS except Mir is half the boxer JDS is and Roy is going to catch Mir with more shots than he did JDS and at some point put him out.

TBH I hope somehow it goes to the ground because I dont care who wins and I want to see some high level BJJ from both guys. :thumb02:
 
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