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post #21 of 95 (permalink) Old 05-26-2011, 05:11 AM
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If not life threatening this time and he brought it on his self .. people shouldn't have remorse for self self-inflicted damage ... you should care for people like Shane Del Rosario who got hit by a drunk driver and almost ended his carer!
I hope you've eaten a perfect diet and never suffer from this self inflicted disease.


As for how good is Lesnar?

He has less experience than Phil Davis. I think he's pretty good.

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I hope you've eaten a perfect diet and never suffer from this self inflicted disease.


As for how good is Lesnar?

He has less experience than Phil Davis. I think he's pretty good.
If i eat loads of sugars and get diabetes.. shit happens my fault. If i smoke 20 a day and i get lung cancer .. shit happens my fault. If i drink a bottle of whiskey a day and i get liver disease .. shit happens my fault. etc etc etc

As for his skill, again he wont be getting any more wins before he retires.

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If not life threatening this time and he brought it on his self .. people shouldn't have remorse for self self-inflicted damage ... you should care for people like Shane Del Rosario who got hit by a drunk driver and almost ended his carer!
what, how do you bring his type of disease on himself? its not like cigarettes giving you cancer, and i do care about people like rosario i also care about anyone else who has something terrible happen to them


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what, how do you bring his type of disease on himself? its not like cigarettes giving you cancer, and i do care about people like rosario i also care about anyone else who has something terrible happen to them
He ate nothing but red meat for 20 YEARS! he has said in interviews its vitamins from greens he has not had in years! because all he ate was red meat!

all i'm saying is 'you reap what you sow' 'You are what you eat' etc

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So one fight is a pattern now? The only man to dominate him is Velasquez, who has dominated everyone he's fought.

He weathered the storm and beat Carwin (the hardest puncher in MMA history IMO) fair and square, which is more than what any other top HW can say.

Granted Mir, Couture and Herring are old guard, but they're not scrubs either and he dominated them badly. Mir is still rated a top 10 HW btw and has KOd Kongo and Nog recently.

I guess Lesnar's next few fights will show if he was a true champion or not, but losing once to a machine like Cain is not proof of being overrated.
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luck is finding a wallet on the street, beating someone in a mma fight is not luck
THIS ^^^^^^^^

Lesnar will probably never beat Cain, JDS, Carwin or a few other top HWs but his wins against Mir, Couture and Herring weren't luck. The above 3 are 3 of the most experienced HWs in MMA and Brock wouldn't have beaten them unless he is a genuinely decent fighter.

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from the first fight of lesner in ufc I was sure that all the credit he gets is to much...except good wrestling skills and size, he is an average fighter
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Oh my god! the fandom that Lesner has is unreal! Im sick of anyone saying he is a top HW in the world! NO HE IS NOT! In fights he has a wrester chance... just like a boxers punchers chance.. many top 20 fighters can beat him! and he is not top ten! no way Cain,reem,JDS,Carwin,Werdum,big foot the list goes on! even the moon(roy) can beat lesner 90% of the time! Brock is just some over grown RED NECK american who has been built by years of HYPE and dear meat! the 2nd he is now paying for! im glad every school aged kid you need a varied diet not just red meat! eat your greens brock or you'll get ill .... oh wait...
1. Lesnar fought the toughest opposition available, always. You can't claim he's "HYPED" or that him being champ wasn't earned.

2. Lesnar doesn't rely on a "wrestlers chance".

3. Werdum is the only one who has fought a top 5 UFC heavyweight and he was KO'ed in the first round. If anyones overrated it may very well be the Strikeforce guys.


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I was going to get involved in this debate, then I noticed, this is too heated for a noob like myself. Back to the newbie section for me...
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Not as good as his nuthuggers think he is and not as bad as his haters think he is.

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