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post #1 of 95 (permalink) Old 05-25-2011, 08:52 PM Thread Starter
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How Good Is Lesnar Really?

After watching all of his UFC fights outside of the Herring bout, I'm really starting to think that Brock Lesnar isn't nearly as good as people give him credit for. He's basically been dominated by the newer breed of HW in the UFC. The only fighters he's beaten are the ones that are from the old guard in the HW division. Whenever he fights anyone with talent that's near his level and does more than one thing well he gets destroyed. His skills havent even improved that much from his first fights, still a punch rather than a striker, he gets by pretty much on wrestling, and GnP. The only thing that he has developed is his knowledge of BJJ so he wont get caught like with Mir. Instead of being the #2 heavyweight in the world I see him more as the last of the old school of MMA heavyweights, or even a gatekeeper to the 3 elite HW's in the UFC. The more I think about it the better a Lesnar v Nelson fight sounds to see exactly where Brock stands.

Just throwing this out there as my humble opinion, and I hope he does get back soon.

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I've sat through the entire Gracie Sakuraba fight... can I consider myself a hardcore MMA fan yet?
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Wrestling is the strongest base to enter this sport in, so I would say he is a fairly good fighter, and he has some of the best GnP in MMA, simply because of his size. He weakness is boxing and at the age of 33, with health issues, I don't know if we will see him evolve in that area.
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He is going to struggle against good wrestlers but guy's who lack wrestling are nothing for him. Either you defend the takedown and/or get straight back up (Cain) and your fine, if you can't then you're pretty much screwed.

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Gatekeeper to the top 3 would be a top five fighter.
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Gatekeeper to the top 3 would be a top five fighter.
There's a pretty big drop off after Cain Carwin and JDS.

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There's a pretty big drop off after Cain Carwin and JDS.
He beat Carwin already
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This is hilarious i was saying this stuff from the get go , only difference is i was saying when it wasnt cool to hate Lesnar.


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He beat Carwin already
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He beat Carwin already
I never said he didn't but are u gonna tell me he didn't get destroyed in the first round and caught a break in the second. I guaruntee if Carwin didn't gas Brock would have tapped to strikes in the second.

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Barely. Should they ever have a rematch Lesnar will get KTFO easy. Carwin stuffed all of his shots in that first round and just beat his ass. If Carwin hadn't gassed from freaking out he would've beaten him pretty easily.

That being said, Brock will probably be a top 5 (or just shy of it) fighter until the inevitable SF merger. His natural agility and strength coupled with his wrestling base makes him tough to beat for anyone who isn't a great wrestler.
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